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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Mik » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:50 pm

Get the Gas forget Solar....
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:57 am

Mik wrote:Get the Gas forget Solar....


Solar and wind etc have their place but we must accept the limitations they have.
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 am

kurupetos wrote:
lucius wrote:
kurupetos wrote:We need to increase self-sufficiency. Buying imported goods and/or goods from foreign-owned shops is tantamount to high treason. :wink:

Importing fossil fuels should be limited as well. Our renewable energy sources must be fully exploited, and the RES industry must be state-supported and encouraged for further development. :wink:


I do not know of any island nation in the world who is self-sufficient, do you? Would be nice it that can be achieved but i think it is rather unrealistic.

Obviously not. We can never become completely self-sufficient, but we should exploit our full potential towards that direction.

Currently Cyprus is producing less solar power than Germany! Why? Because of lack of planning. :roll:

Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country


Or perhaps because Germany has approximately 35 times the land area of Cyprus...? :roll:
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:14 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Mik wrote:Get the Gas forget Solar....


Solar and wind etc have their place but we must accept the limitations they have.


Indeed...

The 42 turbines I can see from my house are currently stationary... Of course, five of those have been broken since it was windy last week...

And as it is overcast I doubt if the solar panels are producing much more energy than they did all night...

Lucky for imported fossil fuels eh?
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby lucius » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:54 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
lucius wrote:
kurupetos wrote:We need to increase self-sufficiency. Buying imported goods and/or goods from foreign-owned shops is tantamount to high treason. :wink:

Importing fossil fuels should be limited as well. Our renewable energy sources must be fully exploited, and the RES industry must be state-supported and encouraged for further development. :wink:


I do not know of any island nation in the world who is self-sufficient, do you? Would be nice it that can be achieved but i think it is rather unrealistic.

Obviously not. We can never become completely self-sufficient, but we should exploit our full potential towards that direction.

Currently Cyprus is producing less solar power than Germany! Why? Because of lack of planning. :roll:

Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country


Or perhaps because Germany has approximately 35 times the land area of Cyprus...? :roll:


Yeah, but propably 3 times less sunshine :-). So in the end the factor is propably more like 10 times.
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:23 pm

lucius wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
lucius wrote:
kurupetos wrote:We need to increase self-sufficiency. Buying imported goods and/or goods from foreign-owned shops is tantamount to high treason. :wink:

Importing fossil fuels should be limited as well. Our renewable energy sources must be fully exploited, and the RES industry must be state-supported and encouraged for further development. :wink:


I do not know of any island nation in the world who is self-sufficient, do you? Would be nice it that can be achieved but i think it is rather unrealistic.

Obviously not. We can never become completely self-sufficient, but we should exploit our full potential towards that direction.

Currently Cyprus is producing less solar power than Germany! Why? Because of lack of planning. :roll:

Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country


Or perhaps because Germany has approximately 35 times the land area of Cyprus...? :roll:


Yeah, but propably 3 times less sunshine :-). So in the end the factor is propably more like 10 times.


Plus 80 times the population....
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby kurupetos » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:42 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
lucius wrote:
kurupetos wrote:We need to increase self-sufficiency. Buying imported goods and/or goods from foreign-owned shops is tantamount to high treason. :wink:

Importing fossil fuels should be limited as well. Our renewable energy sources must be fully exploited, and the RES industry must be state-supported and encouraged for further development. :wink:


I do not know of any island nation in the world who is self-sufficient, do you? Would be nice it that can be achieved but i think it is rather unrealistic.

Obviously not. We can never become completely self-sufficient, but we should exploit our full potential towards that direction.

Currently Cyprus is producing less solar power than Germany! Why? Because of lack of planning. :roll:

Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country


Or perhaps because Germany has approximately 35 times the land area of Cyprus...? :roll:

Bollocks.

Total photovoltaic peak power capacity (MWp)

Germany: 24,875

Cyprus: 10 (10*35=350 :lol: )

24,875>>350
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby kurupetos » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:46 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Plus 80 times the population....

The population is completely irrelevant. :roll:
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:49 pm

kurupetos wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Plus 80 times the population....

The population is completely irrelevant. :roll:


Perhaps it is because Cyprus is too poor to pay the generous subsidies that are required to make solar worthwhile then...?

A Friend of mine was going to make a substantial investment in solar but discovered the funds had all been spent on the (pointless) wind farms...

Whatever the reason, a substantial increase in solar capacity for Cyprus will only result in extra costs for the taxpayer... Which they can ill-afford in the current crisis...
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Mik » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:11 pm

Cobblers to the Renewable energy, get the Gas and convert the Oil burning Power Stations.
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