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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:22 pm

Mik wrote:Cobblers to the Renewable energy, get the Gas and convert the Oil burning Power Stations.


Exactly, cheap (relatively clean) and reliable gas is the best way forward - will boost the economy in so many ways...
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:48 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Mik wrote:Cobblers to the Renewable energy, get the Gas and convert the Oil burning Power Stations.


Exactly, cheap (relatively clean) and reliable gas is the best way forward - will boost the economy in so many ways...


But where on earth are the funds to extract and process whatever is down there going to come from?

If its gonna be one of those deals whereby the company extracting it is also funding it I think we’re better off leaving it there in case we end up increasing our debt! :lol:
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Mik wrote:Cobblers to the Renewable energy, get the Gas and convert the Oil burning Power Stations.


Exactly, cheap (relatively clean) and reliable gas is the best way forward - will boost the economy in so many ways...


But where on earth are the funds to extract and process whatever is down there going to come from?

If its gonna be one of those deals whereby the company extracting it is also funding it I think we’re better off leaving it there in case we end up increasing our debt! :lol:


It is always funded by private companies (as is right)...

The host nation imposes taxes on the fuel extracted as it sees fit....
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:00 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Mik wrote:Cobblers to the Renewable energy, get the Gas and convert the Oil burning Power Stations.


Exactly, cheap (relatively clean) and reliable gas is the best way forward - will boost the economy in so many ways...


But where on earth are the funds to extract and process whatever is down there going to come from?

If its gonna be one of those deals whereby the company extracting it is also funding it I think we’re better off leaving it there in case we end up increasing our debt! :lol:


It is always funded by private companies (as is right)...

The host nation imposes taxes on the fuel extracted as it sees fit....

These fools are too dumb to approach Turkey and cut a package deal that will transfer gas through Turkish soil in return for the island’s liberation, so if they proceed to get others to fund everything AND direct it in Greece’s direction we’re fucking doomed!

We’re gonna end up owing far more than we do now!
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Mik » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:06 pm

Should be in the deal that the companys pay for the building of a new Gas station and the convertion of the existing.
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Jerry » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:23 pm

I'm not sure piplines will be necessary. It seems that gas liqufication plants may be mobile these days are are probably suitable for Cypriot gas fields.

http://www.offshore-mag.com/articles/pr ... shore.html
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:20 am

kurupetos wrote:Blah, blah...

:shock: What?

Paphitis wrote:Why not develop an arms industry? Seek partnerships and joint ventures with the Israelis and build Armoured Personnel Carriers, UAVs, Patrol Boats and thing like that and export to other countries.


I knew that one day someone, somewhere, somehow would embrace my ideas. Let's talk business. :D


Bad idea, never trust a Jew. :wink:
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:24 am

Paphitis wrote:Hello my fellow Cypriots.

Your plight is most distressing and I feel very sorry for you all. The sad thing is, I saw this happening from a long time ago, but what I did not expect was the way Cyprus was dealt with by the EU, Germany, Russia, ECB and Troika.

As bad as things may seem right now, with your formerly successful banking sector now in tatters and literally bankrupt, I just want to say that all is not lost. You can recover from this stronger than ever before.

The key is to not take anything personally like we sometimes do as Cypriots. Do not hate Germany, Russia, US, EU, UK or anyone else you might think is responsible. Things like this are never personal and Cyprus must move on and see this through. After all, the US nuked Japan and today they are best allies. Cyprus too must begin to branch out and develop new bonds and allies.

You need better politicians who are able to form bonds with other countries. The President must make it his objective to make high level visits to countries such as the US, Canada, China, Australia, Japan, South Korea, India, Israel, Russia, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, and UK. This must occur each year. With strategic alliances such as these, your crisis could have been avoided. NATO is also imperative now but a bit lower on your priority list.

We, as a people tend to sell ourselves short. How many times do we hear that Cyprus is too small, as if to imply or justify our inability or deficiencies in certain areas? This defeatist attitude defies all logic. Singapore is also small, and there are other examples such as Luxembourg.

I really hope your leaders use a small part of your bail out to form a manufacturing base. Why can't Cyprus for instance develop a car manufacturing industry? It could set up a publicly listed business and issue all the shares to every Cypriot young and old which they can trade on the Stock Exchange. This business could develop partnerships with the likes of Fiat, VW, Mercedes, Chrysler, Toyota, General Motors or whoever. The new Chrysler Jeeps have new Italian Fiat engines so there is no reason why Cyprus can't start designing and building its own cars. This is not far fetched nor a pipe dream. It can happen, all you need to do is be innovative and think out of the square. You could have import tariffs on imported cars which will protect the industry you could try and develop and protect jobs. I have many ideas, but this post will be too long.

Why not develop an arms industry? Seek partnerships and joint ventures with the Israelis and build Armoured Personnel Carriers, UAVs, Patrol Boats and thing like that and export to other countries.

There are many things. Even a world class Casino perhaps.

But my main point is to keep your chins up and move forward. Having grudges against the likes of US, Russia, UK, EU, or Germany for any reason will always damage Cyprus because Cyprus will always lose out whether it be politically with respect to the Cyprus Problem or Financially as we are seeing right now.

The good thing is, this crisis may bring about some positive changes which will improve Cyprus in the long term. There is always a silver lining.


I've missed you. :mrgreen:
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:30 am

Right now I think Cyprus can trust any Jew a lot more than any Greek.

Israel is a shit load more important to Cyprus than Greece.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it my little Greek Racist pig! :wink:
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Re: Nothing is personal - where to from here

Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
lucius wrote:I do not know of any island nation in the world who is self-sufficient, do you? Would be nice it that can be achieved but i think it is rather unrealistic.

I read that on Pitcairn island the locals just eat each other. Isn’t that self sufficiency? :?


Be careful Chicken or we will eat you. :twisted:
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