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80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfare

Postby kurupetos » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:57 am

Turks came to Germany as ‘guest workers’. They were supposed to provide some “necessary cheap labor” and then leave. But it didn’t work out that way.



And the topic has obvious implications for our own Gang of 8′s guest worker plan, which is going to lead to non-workers bankrupting the social welfare system even further.


Three million Turks live already in Germany already, while 2.5 million of them have German nationality, and the majority of them are conservative Muslims.

Very few Turks in Germany have a regular job; about 20%. The other 80% live on the so-called Hartz IV (state social benefits). 70% of their children have no GCSE; they left school before they finished their basic education.

According to the German state benefit system, every adult citizen who possesses the German nationality, unemployed and cannot find an appropriate job, is entitled to get monthly 482 € ($627). Additionally, parents get for each child under 18 years old, 200 € ($261), plus all their monthly expenditures in terms of rent, heating, power, health insurance, and public transport.

“Amazingly enough some Turks who live on the generous state benefits can afford to buy a house or an apartment and drive luxurious cars like Mercedes or BMW.” Says Klaus, a landlord whose tenants are a case in point.

That part is easy enough. Just like in the United States, you cash in by having a lot of kids. Bring over a whole bunch of family members, churn out some kids from polygamous marriages (the next frontier in marriage equality) and soon you’re bringing in 10 grand a month)


Kamal (46 years old) and his wife Shadia (42 years old) have ten children under 18 and live on Hartz IV (the German social benefit system). They have a monthly net income of about 3000 €. In addition, all their spending on rent, health care, transport, heating, etc. are paid by the state.

Kamal never worked or had a regular job, never finished school, and never learned a profession. Now he claims that he is “ill.” Klaus, the landlord of Kamal says, “The man is fit.” He even confessed to Klaus that he lies when he says he is ill. “He told me once, ‘Why should I work if I can live well without/’” Klaus quotes Kamal.



Kamal is obliged to regularly report his joblessness to the Federal Employment Office (Bundes Agentur für Arbeit) in his town. He does so when he is invited for a job interview. But he always alleges that he is “sick:” He allegedly has “unbearable pains in his back and joints.” Therefore, he cannot take any job. The only one who knows the truth about Kamal is his landlord Klaus.

Klaus and many other Germans are outraged about Kamal and his like. “It is us, taxpayers who have to finance odd buggers like Kamal. This makes me sick.” Klaus frowns at me.

On the other hand, Kamal’s neighbour, Dieter works for a mail company. For working 8 hours daily, he merely get 800 € ($1000) at the end of the month. From this salary he has got to pay his rent and the rest of his expenditure. Left for him is something around 400 € ($500).

This is much worse than Cyprus. And this will eventually break Germany’s back. Imagine millions of people living this way and reproducing at a much higher rate than the native population and the spending becomes completely unsustainable.


German citizens can enter Turkey with simply showing their personal identity card. Hence German Turks, particularly women, travel to Turkey and come back with a “leased” baby. They get the baby temporarily from relatives and claim at the German border that it is their baby who was recently born in Turkey.

Khaled, a Turk, told me that you can get “a false birth certificate” in Turkey for $10.

Back in Germany, the “new” baby is registered at the town hall administration, and the “mother of the baby” starts getting 200 € ($261) monthly.

And don’t kid yourself. This happens here too south of the border.


Nicole, a German school teacher told me once, when she asks her students what they want to become in the future, the majority of Turkish students say, “Hartz IV Empfänger” (state benefit receiver). When she asked one of her students, “Why is that?” The girl answered, “My parents live on Hartz IV and lead an easy life. They sleep longer in the morning, and always have got enough money.”

“The dream of having an Ottoman Empire is not dead among the Turks.” Says Jalal, a Kurdish freelance journalist living in Germany. He added, “The Turkish establishment believes that the Turks in Germany constitute a valuable spearhead for the resurrection of the Ottoman Empire. What could not be accomplished by force in the 15th century might, many Turks believe, become a reality in the 21st century in Germany, the heart of Europe. Besides, don’t forget that demographically, while the German population growth is almost null, it is even contracting, the Turks in Germany have an annual birth rate of more than 5%. Therefore, demographers assume that by 2050 the majority of people living in Germany will be of Turkish descent.”

Welcome to the Welfare Caliphate built by the Welfare Jihad.


http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/80-of-turkish-muslim-settlers-in-germany-live-off-welfare/
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby kurupetos » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:59 am

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has told Turks living in Europe that they do not need to assimilate into their host societies. Erdogan was addressing an audience of 20,000 Turks gathered in Cologne on Sunday. The audience included Turks living in France, Belgian and the Netherlands, as well as in Germany.


http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20080211-10293.html
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby johnny1 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:11 am

where can i get one of those false birth certificates??
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:56 am

It reminds me of the Greeks in Australia. Most of them are on welfare too!
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:29 am

The picture accompanying the article is obviously from the UK, which does not do much for its credibility.

By the way, Kamal and Shadia are Arab not Turkish names. Still, if it makes you happy to believe this garbage, don't let me detract from your pleasure.
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:05 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The picture accompanying the article is obviously from the UK, which does not do much for its credibility.

By the way, Kamal and Shadia are Arab not Turkish names. Still, if it makes you happy to believe this garbage, don't let me detract from your pleasure.


interesting that Kuru choses to use what he would probably otherwise class as a Zionist source......, ....
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:02 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The picture accompanying the article is obviously from the UK, which does not do much for its credibility.

By the way, Kamal and Shadia are Arab not Turkish names. Still, if it makes you happy to believe this garbage, don't let me detract from your pleasure.


interesting that Kuru choses to use what he would probably otherwise class as a Zionist source......, ....


I am genuinely worried by radical Islam - although I believe that it is burning itself out - and I do not think that obviously fabricated articles like the one quoted do anything to help; they simply discredit those with something rational to say on the matter.
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby die7 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:48 am

Really get sick about those alleged facts!
The majority of foreigners living in Germany come from EU countries.
3 millions are of Turkish origin, 1,4 m of them have a German passport by now
It's the 4th Generation now of people, most of them are born in Germany and want to stay, many don't even speak the language of their grandparents!
18,5% live on the welfare tool, not 80% (too many, but argue with true datas!)
30% don't have a GCSE (but 24% have an A level).
4,3% of ALLfamilies in Germany have 3 or more children. I don't now where this 'Kamal' was found, but fact is, that the monthly Hartz4 amount for an adult is 382 E (not 482) and the anount for rent is limited. If there is any near relative around (parents, children, grandparents) they have to to acquire a financial interest in the alimentation. If this guy ''never had a regular job'', how did he come to Germany?? Are there some more 'facts' that are omitted?
The German welfare system is paid by high amounts that every employee and employer has to pay, tax: 25-40%, pulic health insurance 17%,
pension fund 19%, public unemployment insurance 3%, nursing care insurance 1,5%. (Beside that the Germans have to work 38-40 hours /week for at least get the pension, which is around 65-75% of their last income at the age of 67!)
Whereas the Germans population growth is only 1,5%, it's obvious, that it will me more and more difficult to keep the whole welfare system the way it is now. So immigrants are much- needed.
The fact that a welfare system has loopholes always gets people to loop it, this is not a turkish problem. It's a German problem that they are not able to figure the frauds. This would really help the whole system which is a mercy for those who are in distress!
Just because you are paranoid about the 'Ottomane Empire'' you don't have the right to spread untrue facts just to undergird your delusions.
The disguise of the real facts is one of the main points that brought Cyprus into the situation it is in now!
We have arrived in the 21st century, there are other conquerors that rule the world, clean out your eyes!
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby kurupetos » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:29 am

johnny1 wrote:where can i get one of those false birth certificates??

In Louroudjina.
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Re: 80% of Turkish Muslim Settlers in Germany Live off Welfa

Postby kurupetos » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:29 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The picture accompanying the article is obviously from the UK, which does not do much for its credibility.

By the way, Kamal and Shadia are Arab not Turkish names. Still, if it makes you happy to believe this garbage, don't let me detract from your pleasure.

Erdogan believes it, why shouldn't I? :lol:
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