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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby loadsatime » Sat May 04, 2013 2:05 pm

my wife's pussy has been very safe since being in Cyprus.
I only drink Keo !! does it contain antifreeze?
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 04, 2013 2:44 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
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V-War wrote:Hi all,

Thanks for you replies :D

I live in an outskirt of Paphos now, problem is that 4 weeks ago my cat got shot.

Many of my neighbours are hunters, but unfortunately I do not know who did this.

Luckily and amazingly the bullet just stopped 0.2 inch before his spine. Saw it on the computer xray at the vet.
And he recovered in 1 week. Unbelieveable.

But now I am scared to let him out again for it must have been somebody here in the neighbourhood.

We are now considering moving because of this.

Vivian


Little known fact is that UK policy on "feral" wildlife is pretty terminal:

Because they are classed as vermin, feral cats ("nuisance cats") may legally be controlled by shooting by the landowner or his agents. They many also be live-trapped (using human box traps) and euthanized. More rarely, a feral cat is shot by a trained pest control operative because it is untrappable and there is no safe alternative.
UK pest control

That's apart from culling badgers, and hunting foxes or stags with dogs.
Cyprus is pretty tame by comparison; but as always, UK policy is to downplay negativeness. So if you felt safe in the UK - your pets should be even safer in Cyprus where cats have been mollycoddled for eons.


The OP is not discussing "feral" cats, but the family pet... :roll:

Taking your normal "the UK is worse" position contributes nothing to the discussion, nor does mentioning badgers, foxes or stags....


Not worse - but certainly not better as you seem to think. But some people are pretty verbal at condemning others so I just redress the balance.

Feral cats, "nuisance cats", strays or pets off their home patch can be hard to distinguish. A trap is a trap!

The reason you see so many cats in Cyprus, congregating around harbours, restaurants etc is precisely because there is a reluctance to cull, such as regularly happens in other countries, to keep down the number of deer, pigeons or badgers, for example.
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat May 04, 2013 4:02 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
V-War wrote:Hi all,

Thanks for you replies :D

I live in an outskirt of Paphos now, problem is that 4 weeks ago my cat got shot.

Many of my neighbours are hunters, but unfortunately I do not know who did this.

Luckily and amazingly the bullet just stopped 0.2 inch before his spine. Saw it on the computer xray at the vet.
And he recovered in 1 week. Unbelieveable.

But now I am scared to let him out again for it must have been somebody here in the neighbourhood.

We are now considering moving because of this.

Vivian


Little known fact is that UK policy on "feral" wildlife is pretty terminal:

Because they are classed as vermin, feral cats ("nuisance cats") may legally be controlled by shooting by the landowner or his agents. They many also be live-trapped (using human box traps) and euthanized. More rarely, a feral cat is shot by a trained pest control operative because it is untrappable and there is no safe alternative.
UK pest control

That's apart from culling badgers, and hunting foxes or stags with dogs.
Cyprus is pretty tame by comparison; but as always, UK policy is to downplay negativeness. So if you felt safe in the UK - your pets should be even safer in Cyprus where cats have been mollycoddled for eons.


The OP is not discussing "feral" cats, but the family pet... :roll:

Taking your normal "the UK is worse" position contributes nothing to the discussion, nor does mentioning badgers, foxes or stags....


Not worse - but certainly not better as you seem to think. But some people are pretty verbal at condemning others so I just redress the balance.

Feral cats, "nuisance cats", strays or pets off their home patch can be hard to distinguish. A trap is a trap!

The reason you see so many cats in Cyprus, congregating around harbours, restaurants etc is precisely because there is a reluctance to cull, such as regularly happens in other countries, to keep down the number of deer, pigeons or badgers, for example.


I think you'll find it is more to do with a reluctance to neuter than a reluctance to cull - see also: Stray dogs.
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 04, 2013 4:21 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Little known fact is that UK policy on "feral" wildlife is pretty terminal:

Because they are classed as vermin, feral cats ("nuisance cats") may legally be controlled by shooting by the landowner or his agents. They many also be live-trapped (using human box traps) and euthanized. More rarely, a feral cat is shot by a trained pest control operative because it is untrappable and there is no safe alternative.
UK pest control

That's apart from culling badgers, and hunting foxes or stags with dogs.
Cyprus is pretty tame by comparison; but as always, UK policy is to downplay negativeness. So if you felt safe in the UK - your pets should be even safer in Cyprus where cats have been mollycoddled for eons.


The OP is not discussing "feral" cats, but the family pet... :roll:

Taking your normal "the UK is worse" position contributes nothing to the discussion, nor does mentioning badgers, foxes or stags....


Not worse - but certainly not better as you seem to think. But some people are pretty verbal at condemning others so I just redress the balance.

Feral cats, "nuisance cats", strays or pets off their home patch can be hard to distinguish. A trap is a trap!

The reason you see so many cats in Cyprus, congregating around harbours, restaurants etc is precisely because there is a reluctance to cull, such as regularly happens in other countries, to keep down the number of deer, pigeons or badgers, for example.


I think you'll find it is more to do with a reluctance to neuter than a reluctance to cull - see also: Stray dogs.


There are no government-sponsored drives to capture, neuter and release back in the wild, even in the UK as far as I know. Pest control officers treat stray cats as vermin and dispose of them as convenient. It's up to charitable people to help as best they can if they have an interventionist nature.
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby V-War » Sat May 04, 2013 4:36 pm

We were actually thinking about putting leaflets with pics of our cats in mailboxes around our house, and putting them collars on.

Do you think it will help somebody not to shoot that specific cat, or would it not make a difference ? (for the kids probably not, but not many around here luckily)

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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby Cap » Sat May 04, 2013 4:41 pm

V-War wrote:We were actually thinking about putting leaflets with pics of our cats in mailboxes around our house, and putting them collars on.

Do you think it will help somebody not to shoot that specific cat, or would it not make a difference ? (for the kids probably not, but not many around here luckily)

Vivian


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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby Cap » Sat May 04, 2013 4:43 pm

Sorry Vivs.
I thought you were being sarcastic. :D
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat May 04, 2013 5:02 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
There are no government-sponsored drives to capture, neuter and release back in the wild, even in the UK as far as I know. Pest control officers treat stray cats as vermin and dispose of them as convenient. It's up to charitable people to help as best they can if they have an interventionist nature.


No...

...but in the UK most people tend to neuter their pets...
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat May 04, 2013 9:47 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
There are no government-sponsored drives to capture, neuter and release back in the wild, even in the UK as far as I know. Pest control officers treat stray cats as vermin and dispose of them as convenient. It's up to charitable people to help as best they can if they have an interventionist nature.


No...

...but in the UK most people tend to neuter their pets...


Sure ... intervention. Something I thought you abhorred. :wink:
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Re: Safest city for cats in cyprus

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun May 05, 2013 7:07 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
There are no government-sponsored drives to capture, neuter and release back in the wild, even in the UK as far as I know. Pest control officers treat stray cats as vermin and dispose of them as convenient. It's up to charitable people to help as best they can if they have an interventionist nature.


No...

...but in the UK most people tend to neuter their pets...


Sure ... intervention. Something I thought you abhorred. :wink:


What gave you that idea...?
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