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Postby kurupetos » Fri May 10, 2013 3:55 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
kurupetos wrote: "... foreigners will not be allowed to work here, if an unemployed Cypriot can do the job."


If you do a bit of basic research you will discover that in order for an employer in Cyprus to employ a foreign national, they must advertise the job and request that applicants apply, not directly to themselves, but to a certain government office. If, in the course of this process, a Cypriot applies, the employer is refused permission to employ a foreigner and must employ a local instead. This is already the rule.

Of course, there is a principle of free movement in the EU and many Cypriots also avail themselves of this freedom to work in other European countries, quite probably more than foreigners who come here. It is a question of give and take.

Yeah, right. We are talking Cyprus, not Denmark. :lol: To enforce such rules, we need politicians who are not corrupted.

And what about minimum wage? :roll: Also employers should be forced to employ a person for a maximum of 30 hours per week, if it's manual labour. I think Scandinavian countries enforce that. :wink:

The free movement BS is irrelevant. It is not a question of give and take. It is a question of balancing the work labour and reducing unemployment. :wink:
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby RichardB » Fri May 10, 2013 3:58 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
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johnny1 wrote:where is this company?where r u from?if its with accomodation...then im interested also

Are you a Cypriot? Next time vote ELAM. You had your chance a few months ago, but I reckon you spoiled it. :wink:


You don't want foreigners in Cyprus, then? Want me to leave?

I don't want foreigners taking Cypriots' jobs, just because they are willing to work for less money, or because employers can abuse the system.

We have plenty of unemployed Cypriots here. Personally, I have decided to refuse services from companies employing foreigners. Enough is enough.

When we take control, foreigners will not be allowed to work here, if an unemployed Cypriot can do the job. It's all about proper management of workforce.


I expect that you would also be quite happy if other countries took this line also? and if your plan ever bears fruition :lol: ,then you would happily accept all the Cypriots that are working overseas return to Cyprus to seek employment.... Now as i think someone has already mentioned there are probably at least 10 x as many Cypriots working overseas as there are ''foreigners working in Cyprus ...What is your proposal to give gainful employment to these workers??

Then you would happily accept all the Cypriots that are working overseas
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 10, 2013 3:59 pm

Lordo wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
kurupetos wrote: "... foreigners will not be allowed to work here, if an unemployed Cypriot can do the job."


If you do a bit of basic research you will discover that in order for an employer in Cyprus to employ a foreign national, they must advertise the job and request that applicants apply, not directly to themselves, but to a certain government office. If, in the course of this process, a Cypriot applies, the employer is refused permission to employ a foreigner and must employ a local instead. This is already the rule.

Of course, there is a principle of free movement in the EU and many Cypriots also avail themselves of this freedom to work in other European countries, quite probably more than foreigners who come here. It is a question of give and take.

i think not even hitler had this idea. it stinks of racism to me. certainly an employer must advertise the job and everybody should be considered on their merits. race should not be part of this process. i cant believe eu allows this.


betragulloshillo,
up yours reh vromo fascistiko bu don golondu gadaglismo.

:lol: We can live without Turks and other scumbags, YFred. BTW, is your beloved Sharia law more democratic? :lol:
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 10, 2013 4:02 pm

RichardB wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
johnny1 wrote:where is this company?where r u from?if its with accomodation...then im interested also

Are you a Cypriot? Next time vote ELAM. You had your chance a few months ago, but I reckon you spoiled it. :wink:


You don't want foreigners in Cyprus, then? Want me to leave?

I don't want foreigners taking Cypriots' jobs, just because they are willing to work for less money, or because employers can abuse the system.

We have plenty of unemployed Cypriots here. Personally, I have decided to refuse services from companies employing foreigners. Enough is enough.

When we take control, foreigners will not be allowed to work here, if an unemployed Cypriot can do the job. It's all about proper management of workforce.


I expect that you would also be quite happy if other countries took this line also? and if your plan ever bears fruition :lol: ,then you would happily accept all the Cypriots that are working overseas return to Cyprus to seek employment.... Now as i think someone has already mentioned there are probably at least 10 x as many Cypriots working overseas as there are ''foreigners working in Cyprus ...What is your proposal to give gainful employment to these workers??

Then you would happily accept all the Cypriots that are working overseas

You are not very good in reading comprehension. :cry: Give it another try. :wink:
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri May 10, 2013 4:15 pm

kurupetos wrote:What jackboots? :lol: I think that was clear from my previous post... :? Only those foreign workers needed to fill jobs. That doesn't mean foreign residents, who do not work here, but have the necessary funds, shouldn't be allowed to stay in Cyprus. But that's something completely different.

And BTW, immigration has nothing to do with foreign workforce. That nonsense has to stop too. A foreign worker should only be allowed to come here for a certain period of time (e.g. 2 years) and then return home. :wink:


Just to be absolutely certain, if you don't mind.

On this glorious future day, on which you will also no doubt declare union with the motherland, is there room for somebody like me, who I am afraid to say does not have a single Greek gene in his DNA, within this new motherland? It might be worth knowing so I can make advance preparations.

Some facts:
When I moved to Cyprus, I brought the cash with me to buy my flat and, when the deal went through, I duly paid the full amount as per the contract to the developer. Later, when the title deeds came through, I immediately paid the full amount of the transfer fees. Every year, I have promptly paid my tax to the municipality as soon as the letter comes, without waiting for the due date. I will do the same when the letter asking for the new property tax comes.
I am self-employed in Cyprus. For the several years 100% of my work has been for clients abroad - all of my work results in invisible imports for Cyprus. At most 1-2% of my work has ever been local in any year. I am registered for income tax and VAT in Cyprus. I work strictly on an above-board basis and issue a VAT invoice for absolutely every job I do. I declare the full amount of my income for tax purposes - unlike many ethnically pure-bred members of the Greek master race who, despite earning lots of money as doctors, dentists and accountants and drive fancy cars, declare sub-subsistence levels of income on their tax returns. 2011 and 2012 were bad years for me and I paid little income tax genuinely because my income was low, but this year so far I have been working flat our and will be paying several thousand euro in temporary income tax in July, and it is my intention to pay everything in a single instalment just to help out my adopted country in these hard times. I have not left Cyprus since 2005, so every penny I have spent since then has been in Cyprus and I make a conscious effort to buy local products if they are available. In the past few weeks I transferred several thousand pounds from the UK to my account with the Bank of Cyprus, partly to demonstrate my solidarity. Only recently, I paid 580 euro into the social insurance fund, which is mandatory for all self-employed people here, even though I will never get anything back out of it.

So I just wondered, in the light of the above, on the day when the streets resound to the sound of jackboots and stirring marching music, will a group of your friends come and take me off to the concentration camp, or this room for the odd hard-working, law-abiding, tax-paying person who, sadly has no master race genes in his DNA, to continue to live in your hallowed motherland?
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby RichardB » Fri May 10, 2013 4:16 pm

Kurupetos said

And BTW, immigration has nothing to do with foreign workforce. That nonsense has to stop too. A foreign worker should only be allowed to come here for a certain period of time (e.g. 2 years) and then return home.
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This above is what I comprehend :roll:

Do you agree that Cypriots working overseas should have to return home after 2 years , and if so how will you give them gainful employment ?? is the question too difficult??
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri May 10, 2013 4:22 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
kurupetos wrote: "... foreigners will not be allowed to work here, if an unemployed Cypriot can do the job."


If you do a bit of basic research you will discover that in order for an employer in Cyprus to employ a foreign national, they must advertise the job and request that applicants apply, not directly to themselves, but to a certain government office. If, in the course of this process, a Cypriot applies, the employer is refused permission to employ a foreigner and must employ a local instead. This is already the rule.

Of course, there is a principle of free movement in the EU and many Cypriots also avail themselves of this freedom to work in other European countries, quite probably more than foreigners who come here. It is a question of give and take.

Yeah, right. We are talking Cyprus, not Denmark. :lol: To enforce such rules, we need politicians who are not corrupted.

And what about minimum wage? :roll: Also employers should be forced to employ a person for a maximum of 30 hours per week, if it's manual labour. I think Scandinavian countries enforce that. :wink:

The free movement BS is irrelevant. It is not a question of give and take. It is a question of balancing the work labour and reducing unemployment. :wink:


So, you want the current rules enforced, then. Why don't you say so? It seems fair to me and I will be looking out with interest to see all the Cypriots waiting tables and peeling potatoes in the tourist restaurants this summer in the place of the foreigners who have exclusively done this kind of work for many years now. I fully agree that, with unemployment heading towards crisis levels, locals should be doing this work this summer. It is not very hard to go to the tourist area in a place like Limassol, go from door to door and inquire about vacancies. Best of luck to anybody who does so.
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 10, 2013 4:29 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
kurupetos wrote:What jackboots? :lol: I think that was clear from my previous post... :? Only those foreign workers needed to fill jobs. That doesn't mean foreign residents, who do not work here, but have the necessary funds, shouldn't be allowed to stay in Cyprus. But that's something completely different.

And BTW, immigration has nothing to do with foreign workforce. That nonsense has to stop too. A foreign worker should only be allowed to come here for a certain period of time (e.g. 2 years) and then return home. :wink:


Just to be absolutely certain, if you don't mind.

On this glorious future day, on which you will also no doubt declare union with the motherland, is there room for somebody like me, who I am afraid to say does not have a single Greek gene in his DNA, within this new motherland? It might be worth knowing so I can make advance preparations.

:lol: All wrong mate. Greeks don't have a motherland. :x Your question has been answered in my previous posts. :roll:

Some facts:
When I moved to Cyprus, I brought the cash with me to buy my flat and, when the deal went through, I duly paid the full amount as per the contract to the developer. Later, when the title deeds came through, I immediately paid the full amount of the transfer fees. Every year, I have promptly paid my tax to the municipality as soon as the letter comes, without waiting for the due date. I will do the same when the letter asking for the new property tax comes.
I am self-employed in Cyprus. For the several years 100% of my work has been for clients abroad - all of my work results in invisible imports for Cyprus. At most 1-2% of my work has ever been local in any year. I am registered for income tax and VAT in Cyprus. I work strictly on an above-board basis and issue a VAT invoice for absolutely every job I do. I declare the full amount of my income for tax purposes - unlike many ethnically pure-bred members of the Greek master race who, despite earning lots of money as doctors, dentists and accountants and drive fancy cars, declare sub-subsistence levels of income on their tax returns. 2011 and 2012 were bad years for me and I paid little income tax genuinely because my income was low, but this year so far I have been working flat our and will be paying several thousand euro in temporary income tax in July, and it is my intention to pay everything in a single instalment just to help out my adopted country in these hard times. I have not left Cyprus since 2005, so every penny I have spent since then has been in Cyprus and I make a conscious effort to buy local products if they are available. In the past few weeks I transferred several thousand pounds from the UK to my account with the Bank of Cyprus, partly to demonstrate my solidarity. Only recently, I paid 580 euro into the social insurance fund, which is mandatory for all self-employed people here, even though I will never get anything back out of it.

So I just wondered, in the light of the above, on the day when the streets resound to the sound of jackboots and stirring marching music, will a group of your friends come and take me off to the concentration camp, or this room for the odd hard-working, law-abiding, tax-paying person who, sadly has no master race genes in his DNA, to continue to live in your hallowed motherland?


Wrong again. It's not about you. It's about a country that must take care of its people first. Forget about adopted countries and other nonsense you have been brainwashed to believe and accept. You are what you are: British.

What light? You live in the darkness of multiculturalism! :lol:

I didn't mention races and DNAs, so please stop posting BS. You can never beat Lordo in that field anyway. :mrgreen:
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri May 10, 2013 4:37 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
kurupetos wrote:What jackboots? :lol: I think that was clear from my previous post... :? Only those foreign workers needed to fill jobs. That doesn't mean foreign residents, who do not work here, but have the necessary funds, shouldn't be allowed to stay in Cyprus. But that's something completely different.

And BTW, immigration has nothing to do with foreign workforce. That nonsense has to stop too. A foreign worker should only be allowed to come here for a certain period of time (e.g. 2 years) and then return home. :wink:


Just to be absolutely certain, if you don't mind.

On this glorious future day, on which you will also no doubt declare union with the motherland, is there room for somebody like me, who I am afraid to say does not have a single Greek gene in his DNA, within this new motherland? It might be worth knowing so I can make advance preparations.

:lol: All wrong mate. Greeks don't have a motherland. :x Your question has been answered in my previous posts. :roll:

Some facts:
When I moved to Cyprus, I brought the cash with me to buy my flat and, when the deal went through, I duly paid the full amount as per the contract to the developer. Later, when the title deeds came through, I immediately paid the full amount of the transfer fees. Every year, I have promptly paid my tax to the municipality as soon as the letter comes, without waiting for the due date. I will do the same when the letter asking for the new property tax comes.
I am self-employed in Cyprus. For the several years 100% of my work has been for clients abroad - all of my work results in invisible imports for Cyprus. At most 1-2% of my work has ever been local in any year. I am registered for income tax and VAT in Cyprus. I work strictly on an above-board basis and issue a VAT invoice for absolutely every job I do. I declare the full amount of my income for tax purposes - unlike many ethnically pure-bred members of the Greek master race who, despite earning lots of money as doctors, dentists and accountants and drive fancy cars, declare sub-subsistence levels of income on their tax returns. 2011 and 2012 were bad years for me and I paid little income tax genuinely because my income was low, but this year so far I have been working flat our and will be paying several thousand euro in temporary income tax in July, and it is my intention to pay everything in a single instalment just to help out my adopted country in these hard times. I have not left Cyprus since 2005, so every penny I have spent since then has been in Cyprus and I make a conscious effort to buy local products if they are available. In the past few weeks I transferred several thousand pounds from the UK to my account with the Bank of Cyprus, partly to demonstrate my solidarity. Only recently, I paid 580 euro into the social insurance fund, which is mandatory for all self-employed people here, even though I will never get anything back out of it.

So I just wondered, in the light of the above, on the day when the streets resound to the sound of jackboots and stirring marching music, will a group of your friends come and take me off to the concentration camp, or this room for the odd hard-working, law-abiding, tax-paying person who, sadly has no master race genes in his DNA, to continue to live in your hallowed motherland?


Wrong again. It's not about you. It's about a country that must take care of its people first. Forget about adopted countries and other nonsense you have been brainwashed to believe and accept. You are what you are: British.

What light? You live in the darkness of multiculturalism! :lol:

I didn't mention races and DNAs, so please stop posting BS. You can never beat Lordo in that field anyway. :mrgreen:


It is a very simple question, mate. Do I go to the gas chambers or not?
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Re: Plz guide me

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 10, 2013 4:38 pm

RichardB wrote:Do you agree that Cypriots working overseas should have to return home after 2 years , and if so how will you give them gainful employment ?? is the question too difficult??

Definitely they should return home after a certain period, but the time period (hence the e.g.) is up to the country's needs.

Different countries have different needs. It's all about managing unemployment and locals must always have priority on employment. :wink:
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