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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby Get Real! » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:58 pm

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Check if the cock is coming, you chickenshit.

You ain't got a cock... you've got a dripping funny! :lol:
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby kurupetos » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Sure, you can defeather Kurupet :)

Check if the cock is coming, you chickenshit.

You ain't got a cock... you've got a dripping funny! :lol:

Funny? You have a fanny. :lol:
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:45 am

the point however remains that both Crete and Cyprus had developed civilisations that were not Greek in nature but which peoples we know label as Mycenaean later conquered, Crete in about 1500 BC and Cyprus in about 1050 BC, and it is utterly mendacious to suggest Cyprus was empty for the so called Mycenaeans to take over, when the Archaeological evidence very clearly shows that eg Salamis and Paphos were occupied before and the time of the essentially forced Hellenisation of the Cyprus, and where foundation myths involving Homeric heroes were probably an invention to justify the dominance of the new elite.
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby kurupetos » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:30 am

No, there is no evidence of forced hellenisation of the island. On the contrary, Greeks and Eteo-Cypriots co-existed, but eventually Eteo-Cypriots were absorbed by the superior Greek culture (e.g. language, religion). :wink:
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:56 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:the point however remains that both Crete and Cyprus had developed civilisations that were not Greek in nature


What utter nonsense! What kind of bigoted stereotypes limit your peabrain?
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:56 am

kurupetos wrote:No, there is no evidence of forced hellenisation of the island. On the contrary, Greeks and Eteo-Cypriots co-existed, but eventually Eteo-Cypriots were absorbed by the superior Greek culture (e.g. language, religion). :wink:

The language of the Eastern Roman Empire was what is NOW labeled as “Greek” but back then NOBODY called it “Greek” as there was no such place as “Greece” and there were no “Greeks”. Even the word “Byzantine” is a CONTEMPORARY one.

The problem stems from the fact that you are attaching CONTEMPORARY labels today to a scenario from the past and that of course leads to confusion and the spread of false theories.

Cyprus uses the “Greek” language because it was a standard for all those people who lived under the Eastern Roman Empire and has NOTHING to do with modern fairytales about “Greeks” coming here or going there!

Even the word “Hellenic” is a contemporary one borne out of the 1820s revolution.

Anyway, I’m getting bored of you foreign appeasing twats and I’ve also gottta research some boring stuff for work so I’ll catch you later after the football.
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:59 am

Get Real! wrote: Even the word “Byzantine” is a CONTEMPORARY one.


Yes, it's English. English is a very new language. Only came into existence roughly after the fall of Constantinople.
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby kurupetos » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:44 pm

Get Real! wrote:... so I’ll catch you later after the football.

Both Apollon and APOEL fans will have plenty of Greek flags to annoy you even further. 8) :lol:
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:47 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:the point however remains that both Crete and Cyprus had developed civilisations that were not Greek in nature


What utter nonsense! What kind of bigoted stereotypes limit your peabrain?


you are the bigot here. The fact remains that both Cyprus and Crete had developed a culture of their own without Greek/Hellenic Influence, indeed that is the thrust of the title of this topic, and they were both only later Hellenised, in Crete from about 1600 BC, in Cyprus from about 1050 BC.
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Re: Minoan civilisation developed locally in Crete.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:49 pm

kurupetos wrote:No, there is no evidence of forced hellenisation of the island. On the contrary, Greeks and Eteo-Cypriots co-existed, but eventually Eteo-Cypriots were absorbed by the superior Greek culture (e.g. language, religion). :wink:


What a racist point of view to suggest that Greek Culture ie language and religion were in someway innately superior.
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