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Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Maximus » Mon May 27, 2013 10:56 pm

A senior official in Jerusalem has said this Monday that the reconciliation talks with Turkey have hit an impasse. The talks have broken down over the sums to be awarded to the families of the nine "activists" taken out on the Mavi Marmara.

The gap is very wide, while Israel is offering $100,000 each, Turkey is demanding $1m each. They have been talking about compensation since the 22nd of April following Netenhayu's non apology apology to Erdogan for any operational mistakes the IDF may have made.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.526279
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Demonax » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:49 am

Things aren’t getting any better:

Erdogan’s Blaming of Israel Might be Funny If It Weren't So Sad

During his first presidential visit to Israel in March, Obama declared that a solid accomplishment of his travel to the Middle East was persuading Netanyahu to apologize to Erdogan concerning the deadly May 2010 Mavi Marmara flotilla incident where nine Turks were killed.

Since then, however, Turkish and Israeli negotiating teams have not been able to reach a compromise on the meaning and amount of the compensation money to be paid to the loved ones of those killed on the flotilla. While Erdogan pretended at first that he accepted the apology, it became clear after a while that the details of this apology were not well-orchestrated in advance and conflict arose over the substance of that Israeli compromise.

While there was all the hope in the Turkish diplomatic chorus that it would be an easy deal to finalize, the Erdogan government pushed the talks up the hill by demanding an astronomical amount of money — $58 million — for the deaths. Israelis proposed paying only $5 million. Then the Turkish side brought it down to $24 million, and the Israeli side offered half of that in return. Now the talks are stalled. And there is hardly any hope in this climate that these countries will be able to put the Mavi Marmara incident behind them anytime soon. That must be a direct blow to what Obama called a success story of his Israeli trip.

While Erdogan’s dislike of the Jewish state continues at full speed, there is no concrete plan that the Ankara government has put forward to help put out the fire in the region except to accuse Gen. Sisi of being Israel’s man in Egypt. For anything this bizarre-sounding, it is best to move on — but also to conclude that in this political climate, Israel won’t be making Turkey its gateway for exporting its newly found hydrocarbon reserves to international markets. That may deliver a direct blow to Ankara’s hopes of being the natural hub of energy in the region.


http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... ssion.html
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:13 am

Maximus wrote:A senior official in Jerusalem has said this Monday that the reconciliation talks with Turkey have hit an impasse. The talks have broken down over the sums to be awarded to the families of the nine "activists" taken out on the Mavi Marmara.

The gap is very wide, while Israel is offering $100,000 each, Turkey is demanding $1m each. They have been talking about compensation since the 22nd of April following Netenhayu's non apology apology to Erdogan for any operational mistakes the IDF may have made.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.526279


I think it is time for Israel to offer to pay the $100,000 compensation to the families directly and by-pass Erdogan's government, because even if Israel were to pay $1,000,000 to the families of each victim through Erdogan's government, they will get that amount. Most of the money will be taken by Erdogan's government as the "middle men”, to line their own pockets with "blood money". The $100,000 offered by Israel still would be $30,000 more than they would have ever gotten, if anything at all, had they been killed by the Turkish military.
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:13 am

Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:A senior official in Jerusalem has said this Monday that the reconciliation talks with Turkey have hit an impasse. The talks have broken down over the sums to be awarded to the families of the nine "activists" taken out on the Mavi Marmara.

The gap is very wide, while Israel is offering $100,000 each, Turkey is demanding $1m each. They have been talking about compensation since the 22nd of April following Netenhayu's non apology apology to Erdogan for any operational mistakes the IDF may have made.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.526279


I think it is time for Israel to offer to pay the $100,000 compensation to the families directly and by-pass Erdogan's government, because even if Israel were to pay $1,000,000 to the families of each victim through Erdogan's government, they will get that amount. Most of the money will be taken by Erdogan's government as the "middle men”, to line their own pockets with "blood money". The $100,000 offered by Israel still would be $30,000 more than they would have ever gotten, if anything at all, had they been killed by the Turkish military.

see how clever you are. israel apologised and offered 20 million to settle the issue. you must be proud being so clever an all.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.692478?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:18 am

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:A senior official in Jerusalem has said this Monday that the reconciliation talks with Turkey have hit an impasse. The talks have broken down over the sums to be awarded to the families of the nine "activists" taken out on the Mavi Marmara.

The gap is very wide, while Israel is offering $100,000 each, Turkey is demanding $1m each. They have been talking about compensation since the 22nd of April following Netenhayu's non apology apology to Erdogan for any operational mistakes the IDF may have made.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.526279


I think it is time for Israel to offer to pay the $100,000 compensation to the families directly and by-pass Erdogan's government, because even if Israel were to pay $1,000,000 to the families of each victim through Erdogan's government, they will get that amount. Most of the money will be taken by Erdogan's government as the "middle men”, to line their own pockets with "blood money". The $100,000 offered by Israel still would be $30,000 more than they would have ever gotten, if anything at all, had they been killed by the Turkish military.

see how clever you are. israel apologised and offered 20 million to settle the issue. you must be proud being so clever an all.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.692478?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook


Really? I don't think the Israelis care.

Why doesn't Turkey try and pull off another similar stunt and see where that will get you?
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:28 am

Maximus wrote:A senior official in Jerusalem has said this Monday that the reconciliation talks with Turkey have hit an impasse. The talks have broken down over the sums to be awarded to the families of the nine "activists" taken out on the Mavi Marmara.

The gap is very wide, while Israel is offering $100,000 each, Turkey is demanding $1m each. They have been talking about compensation since the 22nd of April following Netenhayu's non apology apology to Erdogan for any operational mistakes the IDF may have made.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.526279

I know you meant well but you should check the dates of articles. :lol:

Anyway, Turkey submitted a draft proposal (Lordo's link) that Israel hasn’t signed yet and probably won’t because I doubt the Israelis trust pipelines going through Turkey.
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:30 am

Oh hang on… Lordo the IDIOT has pulled out an old thread and made a mess here! :roll:
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:35 am

Get Real! wrote:Oh hang on… Lordo the IDIOT has pulled out an old thread and made a mess here! :roll:

ena letpto reh vosgo. have you read the report. 20 million and he said sorry to erdogan on the telephone in front of the yank gavole.

he said sorry na psorgasis djesuni dje o nettenyahousu.
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:40 am

Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Oh hang on… Lordo the IDIOT has pulled out an old thread and made a mess here! :roll:

ena letpto reh vosgo. have you read the report. 20 million and he said sorry to erdogan on the telephone in front of the yank gavole.

he said sorry na psorgasis djesuni dje o nettenyahousu.

At this point in time it’s NOT an agreement but a proposal.

And btw, it’s low to take advantage of 3-year hindsight to get back at Kikakopoulos! :lol:
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Re: Israel - Turkey reconcilliation talks impasse

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:56 am

na psorgasede mazzin me don kikopoullossu mesdin bissan.
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