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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 31, 2014 10:36 pm

...on the telly here, this year; wasn't like that last year.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:41 am

In the small Anatolian city of Amasya, protestors are occupying a green area owned by the state railways which is rumoured to have been sold to a private company that plans to build a petrol station there. This area is currently used by local people for picnics.

There was a police intervention against the protest yesterday evening during which warning live shots were fired.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/Archive/20 ... rce/10.jpg

The caption on the banner reads: “HANDS OFF MY PARK. RESIST AMASYA”

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... yakta.html
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:51 am

It has happened yet again. A 13-year-old boy has been hospitalised after being hit in the head by a tear gas canister when police intervened against a demonstration by PKK separatists in Cizre.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/Archive/20 ... AAMkN9.jpg

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... vurdu.html
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Maximus » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:59 am

Its seems that on every other day, someone in Turkey is getting killed by the government and Turkeys many unresolved problems keep mounting.

The country is consuming itself from the inside out, slowly. Its on a downward spiral into the abyss.

A "great civilization" is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. - Will Durant
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:07 pm

It is time for Condor Non-Lethal Technologies in Brazil to stop selling its products to the Turkish state. I have spoken on the telephone to people in this company on various occasions after one of their so-called 'non-lethal' products has killed somebody in Turkey as to how they can justify the inclusion of the word 'non-lethal' in their company's name. They assure me that their products are non-lethal if used correctly. It would seem that the Turkish state has a track record of not using these products in compliance with instructions and is turning them into lethal weapons, and the company should thus refuse to sell to Turkey in order to retain its good name.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Maximus » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:12 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It is time for Condor Non-Lethal Technologies in Brazil to stop selling its products to the Turkish state. I have spoken on the telephone to people in this company on various occasions after one of their so-called 'non-lethal' products has killed somebody in Turkey as to how they can justify the inclusion of the word 'non-lethal' in their company's name. They assure me that their products are non-lethal if used correctly. It would seem that the Turkish state has a track record of not using these products in compliance with instructions and is turning them into lethal weapons, and the company should thus refuse to sell to Turkey in order to retain its good name.


They have stock piles of these "non lethal" products but the "government" is using live ammunition now Tim !
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:22 pm

Condor's products have killed quite a few people in Turkey over the past year. There was talk of Brazilian unions blacking shipments of tear gas and rubber bullets to Turkey, but unfortunately nothing came of it.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Maximus » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:06 pm

Its the Turkish "government" that has killed quite a few people in Turkey over the year. Not Condor or their products.

Lockheed Martins products have killed quite a few people in the world over the years.

Its people that kill people.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby B25 » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:03 pm

Maximus wrote:Its the Turkish "government" that has killed quite a few people in Turkey over the year. Not Condor or their products.

Lockheed Martins products have killed quite a few people in the world over the years.

Its people that kill people.


Exactly!

As the saying goes, Guns don't kill people, People, kill People.

otherwise you might want to removed from sale just about every item going.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:40 pm

If Condor argues that its products are non-lethal if used correctly, then the onus is on them not to supply to clients who use them lethally. Otherwise, they bear some of the responsibility.
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