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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:55 pm

Various theories are doing the rounds. One of them is that it is a pre-election provocation to help boost the flagging votes of the ruling AKP.

I can't see how killing the prosecutor working on the case is going to take Berkin Elvan's family any closer to seeing justice.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:03 pm

...yes Tim, that is exactly what i find strange; if we are to believe this news story, the DKHP-C declared this intention on their website. But, as far as i can see, it only helps the AKP, and, it makes it less likely that we will find out exactly what happened to Berkin Elvan. Indeed, Lordo, if the government is at fault they will be dragging their feet to get to the bottom of this case, they will place their efforts toward finding the killers of the Prosecutor instead. The two incidents have been linked in any case, in the mind of the public, and finding the perpetrators of one crime can now be exploited to imply both crimes are being solved.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:15 pm

there were never going to do anything about the murderer anyway. the action is more a revenge and any long term strategy. this has always been the problem of the left in terggy. the left is so fragmented it is irrelevant.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:21 pm

There is a twitter account in the name of 'Fuat Avni' which has become something of a sensation in Turkey. It appears to be sponsored by the Gülen religious movement following the former's split with the ruling AKP, and passes on information gleaned by members of the movement who are still deeply embedded in the government and privy to what is going on at the very top. Most of the predictions made through this account have turned out to be true. One of the most recent pronouncements is that the nationwide power cut in Turkey two days ago was staged to help the AKP's election prospects, and that there will be a number of further such cuts, culminating in the biggest cut on the eve of the elections. I am still puzzled as to how power cuts will help the AKP to get votes, but this may become clearer. Against this backdrop, it makes it more plausible that yesterday's murder of the prosecutor may also have been staged for a similar purpose.

I can't help thinking that it would have made more sense for them to abduct one of the policemen present when Berkin Elvan was murdered or someone high up in the AKP hierarchy. Abducting the prosecutor who was running the investigation does not make sense.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:43 pm

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In this recent cartoon, Erdoğan says to Berkin Elvan: "Get off my back, kid! You died!?".

Following the recent murder of the prosecutor working on the Berkin Elvan case, Erdoğan has inflamed the atmosphere further by demanding that those who allege that fourteen-year-old Berkin was just going to buy bread and was not involved in any demonstration when he was killed produce documentary evidence that he was going to buy bread.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:26 pm

http://www.dw.de/conspiracy-theories-in ... v-18358806

...six minute video which adds a lot of background to the incident.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:51 pm

...i stumbled on this, and include it here for your consideration,

Ankara’s partially-built TRY 27 million Republic Tower to be scrapped

http://national.bgnnews.com/ankaras-par ... aberi/5029

Started in 2003 by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and intended to be Turkey’s tallest tower, the partially-constructed Republic Tower in Ankara’s Keçiören district will now be demolished after the Ankara Municipal Assembly rejected its zoning plan.


...having to do with zoning laws, and the environment, i think it may be interesting to the readership.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:50 am

...and this one happened near Gezi Park recently;

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_police-intervene-in-1915-commemoration-ceremonies-in-istanbul-6-taken-into-custody_379035.html

Because the Turkish nationalists arrived at the scene before Nor Zartonk, the police forced the Armenian rights group to start its march further up İstiklal Avenue, away from Galatasaray Square, and the police formed barriers with their shields between the demonstrators from Nor Zartonk and the Young Turks. As Nor Zartonk assembled to start the march, they held up posters to remember the Armenian intellectuals, community leaders and political activists who were arrested by Ottoman authorities on April 24, 1915 -- an event that marked the beginning of the deportations and massacres of Armenians. They also held posters of assassinated journalist Hrant Dink and Sevag Balıkçı, a Turkish soldier of Armenian descent who was killed while performing his military service in Batman on April 24, 2011. All of these posters read, in both Turkish and Armenian, “We are here.”
Today's Zaman was at the scene and heard a police officer ask into his handheld transceiver, “These posters have Armenian writing on them; should we shut it [the march] down?” When Today's Zaman asked the police the reason why the posters needed to be taken down, they explained that they were too provocative. Thus, much like the demonstration that took place in Kadıköy, the group was able to commence its march only after having put down its posters.
The group then marched towards Taksim Square, where they joined thousands of Turkish and international demonstrators outside the French Cultural Center in a commemoration ceremony that involved speeches and music to pay their respects to the lives lost in 1915
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:05 pm

All 26 defendants, most of them prominent figures in the Taksim Solidarity group, in a high profile case relating to the Gezi Park protests have been acquitted.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... eraat.html
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 01, 2015 5:57 pm

...a little more than a year ago Berkin Elvan was buried, to Erdogan's complete and utter silence.

Sadly today, Umut Boran, another young boy of 16 faces the same fate from a tear gas canister, that likewise struck his head.
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