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Postby Kikapu » Sat May 27, 2006 7:11 pm

growuptcs wrote: marches are good if we are in the millions, but we're not. .


With 20,000 people on the streets in Nicosia, on regular basis, with banners and whistles and horns, you will get the governments attention, that will draw international attention. Shut down the airport and sea ports once or twice and see how the government starts getting hell from the business groups, like the tourism boards, hotels, restaurants and so on, when the tourist cannot fly into the country.

Come on people, you have to put the fire under your government ass for them to feel the heat. Time for patience must have it's limits. Even Ghandi was willing to sacrifice his life to stop the violance between his own people in India. Can't you all sacrifice one day a month collectively to protest to save your country. I'm not talking about a revolution here, just flexing some "peoples power" muscle.

Those who would love to pick up arms against the Turkish forces in Cyprus to drive them out, should have the balls to organize peaceful street marches against their own government, to tell them to stop f***ing around and start negotiating. Turkey is not leaving Cyprus, but she cannot be seen as not willing to negotiate.

If there's a huge outcry on the GC's side who are the majority, it will be very difficult for the TC's side to ignore their "shouting" when the world is watching.
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Re: CYPRIOTS SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELVES

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 27, 2006 7:23 pm

[quote="malaka
Who negotiates with criminals?

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Malaka,

If the whole world recognises Cyprus today and conducts business as usual, despite their criminal past actions agaist the Turkish Cypriots, I'm sure the Cypriot government can find it in their hearts to negotiate with the "Turkish criminals" as you put it.
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Postby growuptcs » Sat May 27, 2006 7:50 pm

Kikapu, no kind of change of heart would allow us to negotiate with a criminal society. Not the people, but the laws up there. They're single sided, remember. Can the Americans start bringing Americans to live in Iraq and give them more rights than Iraqis? I'd like a response to the question.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat May 27, 2006 9:22 pm

growuptcs wrote:Kikapu, no kind of change of heart would allow us to negotiate with a criminal society. Not the people, but the laws up there. They're single sided, remember. Can the Americans start bringing Americans to live in Iraq and give them more rights than Iraqis? I'd like a response to the question.


I'm sorry growuptcs, but I really do not understand all the points of your question, other than that you do not want to negotiate with a criminal society.

It seems to me, you would like to throw all the Turks into the same pot and label them all as a "criminal society", because if you did that, it does not make you any better if you look past at your own society. As far as the Americans , they would be fools to go and live in Iraq, but just that I do not avoid the question, I'll say that, many Americans believe the 12 million illegal Mexicans and others in the USA receive more from the American government as far as benefits than do the Americans themselves. America still prospers, even with this belief that foreigners receive more than natives, so not all is lost.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sun May 28, 2006 7:19 am

Turkey is not leaving Cyprus, but she cannot be seen as not willing to negotiate.


Exactly! Ask negotiations to start for Turkey to be forced to come back to the negotiation table. What is the government of Cy doing?

And put all your demands in Negotiations ! I am sure Turkey believes that the GCs do not want settlement and this also satisfies her long term objectives! If they (Cy government) does not want settlement then why to bother?
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Postby michalis5354 » Sun May 28, 2006 7:20 am

This governemengt is for NOTHING! Only for Blah Blah and B**Sh*t
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Re: CYPRIOTS SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELVES

Postby andri_cy » Sun May 28, 2006 7:25 am

lysi wrote:Can any anti-occupation forum members out there tell me what they are doing to bring to the attention of the world the plight of the thousands of cypriot refugees who are waiting to return to there homes & land ?
Does anyone write, phone , email the cyprus & turkish government to complain about the illegal turkish occupation ? what about complaining direct to the uk & cyprus based estate agents who are selling stolen greek cypriot land & property, has anyone contacted these greedy estate agents to complain ?
What about contacting your MP or european member of parliament to bring to the attention the plight of the cypriot refugees. Go on email, write or phone those people today, dont let the world forget about the OCCUPATION OF CYPRUS. :cry:



Why dont you tell us what you are doing about it first, then we can take turns.
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Postby andri_cy » Sun May 28, 2006 7:28 am

growuptcs wrote:Only the Cypriots that are wealthy can make their voices heard. Petitions aren't good enough, marches are good if we are in the millions, but we're not. Anything else that I can do here in New York, let me know.

I didnt know you were in the US grow
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Postby michalis5354 » Sun May 28, 2006 7:44 am

Lysi is right seeing no action and neither do I! What can ordinary people do?

This is the reason they elect a "representative government "!
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Postby growuptcs » Sun May 28, 2006 8:51 am

hey andri_cy....Yes Im in New York.
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