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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:50 am

:lol: Can't stand football myself.
How anyone can watch a bunch of big girls blouses, with highly inflated egos, highly inflated wage, prancing around kicking a bag o wind around on some grass for 90 minutes is beyond me.
All they ever do is fall over crying ' boo hoo that bad man pulled my hair, boo hoo looks at me I'm such a drama queen' :lol:


Much prefer MotoGP! 8)

Real men, riding at the speed of light, crash in spectacular fashion, hurtling through the air like a human cannonball.....only to get up off the tarmac, run pick up bike and try to run with it and rejoin the race!
They then think kicking the gravel trap, 'dash and codswallop, fecked that up royally'

Wave to the crowd thinking 'wehay, hard as nails me, I didn't even break so much as a finger nail :mrgreen: :twisted:


FAR more entertaining, and far more world friendly sport!
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:22 am

Football Players, and what I mean is Soccer Players, because Football is an Australian Game, are a bit delicate and do act a bit gay! :?
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby stpier » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:07 am

Sorry to disappoint but both Fenerbahce and Besiktas are in for today's European Cup draws!! :D
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby Demonax » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:36 pm

stpier wrote:Sorry to disappoint but both Fenerbahce and Besiktas are in for today's European Cup draws!! :D


Temporary lifting of the ban awaiting final decision....

The Turkish clubs were given two-year suspensions by Uefa in June for their involvement in domestic match-fixing.
But the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) overturned Uefa's ruling.

Both teams will be included in Friday's preliminary-round draws but could still be banned from the group stage once Cas makes its final decision.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23367854
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby stpier » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:50 pm

Demonax wrote:
stpier wrote:Sorry to disappoint but both Fenerbahce and Besiktas are in for today's European Cup draws!! :D


Temporary lifting of the ban awaiting final decision....

The Turkish clubs were given two-year suspensions by Uefa in June for their involvement in domestic match-fixing.
But the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) overturned Uefa's ruling.

Both teams will be included in Friday's preliminary-round draws but could still be banned from the group stage once Cas makes its final decision.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23367854


Wrong! Besiktas only 1 year.
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby bigOz » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:41 am

All I want to say to those guys who want to turn this into another racist argument is "read on!" OR better still "eat these!"

21.11.2011 report by South East Times News for South East Europe and can be read in all the languages existing in the Balkans
Football scandals in Europe may seem to happen as often as goals. However, the arrest of 83 people associated with Greece's Super League on charges of match-fixing and money laundering, coupled with unceasing violence at games, has led to a drop in attendance and premium television subscriptions. Add to that mix the embarrassment of one club owner escaping authorities -- twice...
Read the rest at: http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/x ... portage-01

10 March 2011 by GR reporter - News from Greece
The famous Athenian lawyer and president of the football team Panahaiki from Patras Alexis Kougias submitted to the court and the media evidence for match-fixing in the Greek football championship and for the appointment of specific referees.
He accused the president of the football club Olympiakos Volos Ahileas Beos for attempting to bribe the referee Daloukas and attempting to contact the referee of the Maccabi- Olympiacos match...

See more at: http://www.grreporter.info/en/evidence_ ... nship/4192

5 February 2013 BBC Sport
Fixing and corruption in sport has a long history. If you were to go to the site of the ancient Olympics in Greece you would find, outside the ruins of the stadium, remains of statues to their Gods. The statues were paid for by athletes and coaches who were caught cheating. Sports corruption goes back at least 2,800 years and some type of corruption will be with us for as long we continue to hold competitive sports. It is simply a part of human nature.
See the rest at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21333930

5 Sept 2012 Corruption in Greece affects new-season fixtures
When the Greek Super League kicked off on the weekend of August 28, only five out of eight scheduled games were played. The postponed games were Panaitolikos v Asteras Tripolis, Olympiakos v TBD (to be decided) and AEK v TBD. Asteras Tripolis should have been relegated at the end of last season, but were reprieved when Iraklis were sent down. Originally this was for unpaid debts, but later they were placed last in the 2010-11 table after being found guilty of supplying forged documents during the January transfer window. They appealed to the civil courts, and so while Asteras Tripolis are still officially in the Super League, they can't start playing until Iraklis's case is finally resolved.

The two "TBDs" relate to a massive match-fixing, bribery and betting scandal that blew up late in June and resulted in scores of arrests. It involved in particular two clubs, Olimpiakos Volos and Kavala, whose presidents, Achilleas Beos and Stavros Psomiadis, are currently in jail. They are accused of betting on and fixing their own clubs' matches. Volos had qualified for the Europa League and got through two preliminary rounds before UEFA threw them out.

Read the rest in: http://www.wsc.co.uk/wsc-daily/1019-Sep ... n-fixtures

AND FINALLY!

August 25, 2011 CNN
Over the past year more than a dozen countries have been rocked by allegations of sophisticated match fixing and bribery rings, many linked to illegal South East Asian betting syndicates.
In China last year the head of the Football Association, his deputy, 20 officials and several players from Hong Kong were arrested for match fixing. In South Korea the country's K League was hit by the arrest of several dozen players, 10 of whom received life bans, for manipulating matches. One player later committed suicide. Similar scandals have broken in Israel, Greece, Finland, Italy and Germany. The problem has reached such a critical point that FIFA has set up a special unit within Interpol to combat what it views as the biggest threat to the global game.

The above is expressed after a report on Fenerbahçe match fixing accusations in Turkey. You can see the whole article in:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/footb ... index.html

SO! my dear Greek fanatic, racist forum participators... I admit perhaps the Chinese may also be well related to Mongols, but how do Greeks, Finns, Italians and Germans relate to Mongols in this instance? :lol: :roll:
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby Demonax » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:23 am

bigOz wrote:All I want to say to those guys who want to turn this into another racist argument is "read on!" OR better still "eat these!"


Nothing racist about calling out a cheating bastard. Doesn't matter if they're Turk, Greek, Italian, Finn or whatever. Cheating is cheating.

Just that it's been Turkish clubs (and athletes) in the spotlight lately.

And it's not some obscure Greek or Finnish football teams either - but two of Turkey's most established football clubs accused of bribery and match fixing along with dozens of athletes accused of doping.

There's something very systematic and dodgy going on and there's no use hiding from it.
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:43 am

Demonax wrote:
bigOz wrote:All I want to say to those guys who want to turn this into another racist argument is "read on!" OR better still "eat these!"


Nothing racist about calling out a cheating bastard. Doesn't matter if they're Turk, Greek, Italian, Finn or whatever. Cheating is cheating.

Just that it's been Turkish clubs (and athletes) in the spotlight lately.

And it's not some obscure Greek or Finnish football teams either - but two of Turkey's most established football clubs accused of bribery and match fixing along with dozens of athletes accused of doping.

There's something very systematic and dodgy going on and there's no use hiding from it.


There was a reference to Mongols I think was intended to be racist....

Match fixing, performance enhancing drugs and minor medical procedures involving blood extraction and replacement, etc, must be of concern to everyone who claims to like sport, whatever the nationality of the organisations or individuals involved, but particularly when it affects a significant number of athletes in a nation hoping to hold the premier sporting event which is meant to be the epitome of all that should represent fairness in sport, the Olympics.
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby bigOz » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:49 am

Demonax wrote:
stpier wrote:
breaching UEFA's financial fair play criteria..... > cheating
get your facts right....


Typical of a Turk to try and insist that everyone is as corrupt and rotten as they are. :roll:
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Demonax wrote:
bigOz wrote:All I want to say to those guys who want to turn this into another racist argument is "read on!" OR better still "eat these!"


Nothing racist about calling out a cheating bastard. Doesn't matter if they're Turk, Greek, Italian, Finn or whatever. Cheating is cheating.

Just that it's been Turkish clubs (and athletes) in the spotlight lately.

And it's not some obscure Greek or Finnish football teams either - but two of Turkey's most established football clubs accused of bribery and match fixing along with dozens of athletes accused of doping.

There's something very systematic and dodgy going on and there's no use hiding from it.


The two Greek clubs are in debt and did not meet UEFA’s financial criteria to compete in the Europa League. Having financial problems is not the same as bribery and match fixing - which is what the Turkish clubs have been found guilty of. :roll:

There was a reference to Mongols I think was intended to be racist....

Match fixing, performance enhancing drugs and minor medical procedures involving blood extraction and replacement, etc, must be of concern to everyone who claims to like sport, whatever the nationality of the organisations or individuals involved, but particularly when it affects a significant number of athletes in a nation hoping to hold the premier sporting event which is meant to be the epitome of all that should represent fairness in sport, the Olympics.

I am sorry Demonax, bu the above was what I was referring to! As much as I hate mainland Turks taking over North Cyprus and TCs moving to exile again - screaming demeaning names at people will never change a thing in Cyprus!

Also I hope you agree that - and this is not a racist statement - it is the truth that Greeks started "bribery" in sports (Olympics) thousands of years ago. Furthermore I think the fact that Greek super league teams are named in the aforementioned Greek bribery cases is just as bad as any Turkish super league sides getting involved.

I personally would not get offended if someone related me to the Mongol race - and will probably take i as a complement! What is wrong with them? I would love to visit Mongolia and spend some time with those people. They must be one of the toughest, strongest, healthiest self sufficient hunters/fighters/people in Far East, with a lot of stamina. The Chinese wall was built to stop them from conquering the mainland China! You must try and watch some videos about their life style to see what I mean (especially when they hunt wolves with eagles... :)

Here is an example by Khazaks living in Altai Mountains - Mongolia, hunting wolves/foxes with Eagles! (neighboring Kırgyz Turks do the same) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y3Dl0BGFfw

If you wish to learn more about Mongols' life - here is the first episode of a very interesting docu by Discovery Channel. If you wish you can follow the rest of the short documents numbering around 5-6... :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq-GjobWJ_g

Corruption in Sports today? It will always happen everywhere as long as there is big money involved with professional clubs most of whom have become PLCs and the existance of gambling in the form of betting. It does not matter what nationality or race you are in the corrupt world we live in today! :)
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Re: Turkish Sides Banned from Europe

Postby stpier » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:04 pm

What is sickening is this Demonax guy starting a thread about Turkish teams and to remain silent when Greek teams are in same shit.
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