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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby kurupetos » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:35 pm

The Cypriots realised the consequences of solution plans and constitutions that are based on division, and in effect, ethnic cleansing.

The answer is simple, yet clear: No, thanks! :wink:
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:03 pm

Repulsewarrior,

I am willing to listen to your ideas and some kind of Multizonal Arrangement does have merit if it means all refugees get to return back to their homes. Each Community can still have there elected reps, their own police force (addresses security in lieu of Guarantees) and separate areas. In other words, there is still 2 States (not contiguous) within the Federation (FoC).

It's all possible, but will the GCs and TCs accept it?
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:28 am

boulio wrote:Repulse can you put your plan to a nap with the various zones


ok,

...imagine two separate levels of government:

1. the Federal Government, which represents us as Individuals, and where as Citizens we represent ourselves as a People, Sovereign and in defense of the Universal Principals as Human Beings we are all committed to.

2. Cypriot Constituencies, where electors as Persons, by their residence, demonstrate there distinctiveness as Greeks or Turks, (and/or as a Maronites, Latins, Armenians, if they have territorial jurisdictions as well).

...such a system would secure our Freedom because as Cypriots we are equals, Individuals, without distinction or discrimination, and we have the Liberty to decide for ourselves how to sustain and promote the distinctiveness of ourselves, as Persons.

...it is a natural extension of this division (internal/external) of our politics to expect a National Assembly with a Territorial Jurisdiction to administer its components as a "zone". it would not mean a geographical division of the island, Sovereignty would not be the question, as it is today. rather each would identify an Agenda where they service a population by their needs as a "majority" where their "minorities" are recognised and respected providing for them as well, their special needs. thus, it would be possible to have a repopulation of the island where at least for some of the displaced, they could return as communities, and where Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots choose to be Grecophone or Turcophone (first) for whatever reason, not by ethnicity, but by their own volition.

does this help?
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:34 am

kurupetos wrote:The Cypriots realised the consequences of solution plans and constitutions that are based on division, and in effect, ethnic cleansing.

The answer is simple, yet clear: No, thanks! :wink:


...and what makes you think that your thinking is different to a "Turk"? i think that Cypriots realised what they want when they did not come out in force during the coup, they could have chosen to be "Greeks", but they did not.
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby kurupetos » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:04 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
kurupetos wrote:The Cypriots realised the consequences of solution plans and constitutions that are based on division, and in effect, ethnic cleansing.

The answer is simple, yet clear: No, thanks! :wink:


...and what makes you think that your thinking is different to a "Turk"? i think that Cypriots realised what they want when they did not come out in force during the coup, they could have chosen to be "Greeks", but they did not.

What makes you think I give a fuck? :lol:

But if it was the same, Cyprus would have been free and peaceful, RW.

It's because of partitionists like you, and Lordo, that Cyprus is still divided. :wink:
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:45 am

Matsis stated that there are 850,000 in the occupied areas, now is the time to equality in Cyprus, no minority no majority….the waiting game worked….yeahyyy
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:10 am

kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
kurupetos wrote:The Cypriots realised the consequences of solution plans and constitutions that are based on division, and in effect, ethnic cleansing.

The answer is simple, yet clear: No, thanks! :wink:


...and what makes you think that your thinking is different to a "Turk"? i think that Cypriots realised what they want when they did not come out in force during the coup, they could have chosen to be "Greeks", but they did not.

What makes you think I give a fuck? :lol:

But if it was the same, Cyprus would have been free and peaceful, RW.

It's because of partitionists like you, and Lordo, that Cyprus is still divided. :wink:


Has anyone called you a useless Filthy Fascist Fucker tonight Toffoui...???
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:53 am

bill cobbett wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
kurupetos wrote:The Cypriots realised the consequences of solution plans and constitutions that are based on division, and in effect, ethnic cleansing.

The answer is simple, yet clear: No, thanks! :wink:


...and what makes you think that your thinking is different to a "Turk"? i think that Cypriots realised what they want when they did not come out in force during the coup, they could have chosen to be "Greeks", but they did not.

What makes you think I give a fuck? :lol:

But if it was the same, Cyprus would have been free and peaceful, RW.

It's because of partitionists like you, and Lordo, that Cyprus is still divided. :wink:


Has anyone called you a useless Filthy Fascist Fucker tonight Toffoui...???

I second that Bill !!
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby kurupetos » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
kurupetos wrote:The Cypriots realised the consequences of solution plans and constitutions that are based on division, and in effect, ethnic cleansing.

The answer is simple, yet clear: No, thanks! :wink:


...and what makes you think that your thinking is different to a "Turk"? i think that Cypriots realised what they want when they did not come out in force during the coup, they could have chosen to be "Greeks", but they did not.

What makes you think I give a fuck? :lol:

But if it was the same, Cyprus would have been free and peaceful, RW.

It's because of partitionists like you, and Lordo, that Cyprus is still divided. :wink:


Has anyone called you a useless Filthy Fascist Fucker tonight Toffoui...???

Nobody important, goblin. :lol:
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:45 am

But if it was the same


...same, compared to what, kurupetos?
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