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...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:53 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
One Cyprus, One People, and within, two (or more) states. (is this not Bicommunal?)

no Army, would be nice, but i suspect a supra Army will exist, Britain, NATO, and Turkey, will insist on remaining, a Cypriot Army compels them to be inclusive, (recognition), having common goals, allied as such.

...but Freedom is essential, as you say vp. Freedom of Movement, Expression, and Association, these are the Equalities we seek as Individuals. in Liberty, (as Persons) the Cypriot Constituencies should be equal as well. do you agree?


...for the record: and i hope without the smarm, or, "dead air", for the recognition that a Federation of Individuals makes a State. and, as Persons, under its Principals our needs are met, too; Bicommunal (Bizonal) is (are) not a dirty word, and Cypriot is not either, i hope you join in this dialog.
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:06 pm

With all respect Repulse...

You really would do well to flesh out your scheme a little... and in simple language please.

What level of power would the zones have...???

How many zones...???

How strong would the central gov be...???
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:13 pm

bill cobbett wrote:With all respect Repulse...

You really would do well to flesh out your scheme a little... and in simple language please.

What level of power would the zones have...???

How many zones...???

How strong would the central gov be...???


You haven't read his manifesto?
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:20 pm

CBBB wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:With all respect Repulse...

You really would do well to flesh out your scheme a little... and in simple language please.

What level of power would the zones have...???

How many zones...???

How strong would the central gov be...???


You haven't read his manifesto?


HDY...!!! Of course... many times... :oops:
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby CBBB » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:22 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
CBBB wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:With all respect Repulse...

You really would do well to flesh out your scheme a little... and in simple language please.

What level of power would the zones have...???

How many zones...???

How strong would the central gov be...???


You haven't read his manifesto?


HDY...!!! Of course... many times... :oops:


Lying bugger!
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby Cap » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:48 pm

This manifesto keeps cropping up.
Spell it out repulse.
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:52 pm

The federal governments powers, use your better judgement some of these powers have already gone to the EU


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_powers_w ... ion#page16
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:56 pm

bill cobbett wrote:With all respect Repulse...

You really would do well to flesh out your scheme a little... and in simple language please.

What level of power would the zones have...???

How many zones...???

How strong would the central gov be...???


What level of power would the zones have...???

Internal politics, policing, infra structure ( e.g. roads, medical, education, municipalites (permits, by-law), Civil Law), within a National Assembly where the electors are equal, and who have the right to vote by where they reside.

How many zones...???

many, perhaps 17 that make up the Greek Constituency, 7 that make up the Turkish Constituency, and at least a number for each, the Maronite, Armenian, and Latin Communities, who will depend on the largest of these Constituencies to recognise their needs are equal in sustaining the living relics they have as a Heritance, as well, on this island. as such, enclaves might pocket the whole island, but they are not ghettos, and the Green Line may be little modified, but it is not a "Border", just another frontier.

How strong would the central gov be...???

very strong. as strong as possible, prepared for the 21st Century, and the Information Age; in representing (and serving) Cypriots, and in defending our Individual Rights, our demonstration as a State, without distinctions or the discrimination of Nations, of Universal Principals, and their betterment.

...more please. :oops: :lol:

...honestly, do it for vp, he needs your help, a reason to change; that could be interesting, no?
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:16 pm

Cap wrote:This manifesto keeps cropping up.
Spell it out repulse.


i.e. Medical Service. a Federal Government mandates a Standard which must be met, and collects the Tax toward this entitlement of Citizens. the Cypriot Constituencies execute through their own self-representation how this Policy is effected in a manner where while their Agenda (as a Distinct Identity) is the first consideration, it recognises and respects the needs of the Minorities amongst them, toward which is provided the same Goodwill (i.e. service in other languages).

i.e. Justice, a State has an independent Judiciary, and it should be able to consider any question of Law, and Justice. Criminal Law remains the domain of the Federal Government, there may be Criminal Courts that are administered by Constituencies, and they make decisions based on Law enacted by Constituencies, (Jury Trials, manslaughter, drunk driving, e.g.) but none of this can draw the conclusion that the Rule of Law in Cyprus as anything but one System, with one Supreme Court.

i.e. Environment/Safety, (and @ Oceanside), obviously the Republic of Cyprus is committed to common goals with other members of the EU, however it has a Jurisdiction, and it has the ability to effect change, similarly the Constituencies are more on the ground (if you will), and they too have the good conscience to seek to better themselves as Peoples.


...the point is choice, Cap, taxpayers closer to their taxdollars.
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Re: ...anyone willing to support my position?

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:26 pm

So far, almost so good.

For English-speakers, the main points of RW's proposals are geographically a multi-zonal arrangement with two political
administrations responsible for such things as regional level laws and policing under a strong central government.

Is this right RW...???
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