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Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet?

Postby B25 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:49 am

As I have been saying all long, the EU is a spineless useless piece of crap. It is so obvious others also see it, here:

Into the fifth decade of Turkish occupation of Cyprus, there is still no serious dictating by the EU to Turkey over what it must do about northern Cyprus. Turkey does not find itself under even the most remote international pressure finally to disengage from its illegal occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And that is because for some inexplicable reason the EU does not consider it imperative that Turkey should disengage from the illegal occupation of an EU member state. It does not consider that the future of any region depends on this action. Yet it does persist, even now, with its view that it can dictate to Israel about its borders. And that it can have a constructive role in doing so. Of all the fallacies of the EU, that is surely the topmost.

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 013/07/23/
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby Maximus » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:56 am

Yeah, the EU is an advanced donkey.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby T-Mac » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:16 am

B25 wrote:As I have been saying all long, the EU is a spineless useless piece of crap. It is so obvious others also see it, here:

Into the fifth decade of Turkish occupation of Cyprus, there is still no serious dictating by the EU to Turkey over what it must do about northern Cyprus. Turkey does not find itself under even the most remote international pressure finally to disengage from its illegal occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And that is because for some inexplicable reason the EU does not consider it imperative that Turkey should disengage from the illegal occupation of an EU member state. It does not consider that the future of any region depends on this action. Yet it does persist, even now, with its view that it can dictate to Israel about its borders. And that it can have a constructive role in doing so. Of all the fallacies of the EU, that is surely the topmost.

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 013/07/23/


The EU is a conspiracy, .... so is the UN and IMF.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:38 am

Into the 5th decade for the occupation but not as far as the EU is concerned. It's still a relatively new problem for them. Good to see Israel using us for leverage now when it feels threatened too. :roll: (But, I do agree on a number of their points about Turkey having no legitimate rights to be here.)

"The northern part of Cyprus has been illegally annexed for the last four decades by Turkey. It is not as though Turkey shares a border with the island. Nor does it have — as Israel has with the West Bank — any legitimate historical, political or other territorial claims on the northern part of the island. There is no security reason for Turkey to sustain its occupation, as there is an obvious need for Israel to have defensible borders that do not permit terrorists from the West Bank to fire rockets into Israel, as do its friends in post-disengagement Gaza or southern Lebanon."

We need to do more for ourselves. Unite as Hellenes would be a good start instead of scaring everyone off with our indeterminate identity that gives the Turks their self-justified say in Cyprus.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:48 am

B25 wrote:As I have been saying all long, the EU is a spineless useless piece of crap. It is so obvious others also see it, here:

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 013/07/23/

Jewish press? WTF, B25? :evil:
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby B25 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:09 pm

kurupetos wrote:
B25 wrote:As I have been saying all long, the EU is a spineless useless piece of crap. It is so obvious others also see it, here:

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 013/07/23/

Jewish press? WTF, B25? :evil:


I couldn't give a flying F who wrote it, as long as it gets said and disseminated worldwide to show the Turks for what they are, including the failure of the EU to act, yet is two faced against Israel.

In fact, I thought it was a perfect example and the F EU should take note.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby Demonax » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:09 am

Good article. Anything which shows up the hypocrisy of the EU is a good thing.

If the EU are going to boycott Israel over the 'occupied territories' then they have set a precedent - which we should seek to exploit.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby kimon07 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:23 am

B25 wrote:As I have been saying all long, the EU is a spineless useless piece of crap. It is so obvious others also see it, here:

[i]Into the fifth decade of Turkish occupation of Cyprus, there is still no serious dictating by the EU to Turkey over what it must do about northern Cyprus. Turkey does not find itself under even the most remote international pressure finally to disengage from its illegal occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And that is because for some inexplicable reason the EU does not consider it imperative that Turkey should disengage from the illegal occupation of an EU member state........
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 013/07/23/


My thoughts exactly. But the stance of the EU is not at all inexplicable. It is dictated by the logic of the "enormous Turkish market" and, of cource, the instructions of Uncle Sam.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:31 am

kimon07 wrote:
B25 wrote:As I have been saying all long, the EU is a spineless useless piece of crap. It is so obvious others also see it, here:

[i]Into the fifth decade of Turkish occupation of Cyprus, there is still no serious dictating by the EU to Turkey over what it must do about northern Cyprus. Turkey does not find itself under even the most remote international pressure finally to disengage from its illegal occupation of the northern part of Cyprus. And that is because for some inexplicable reason the EU does not consider it imperative that Turkey should disengage from the illegal occupation of an EU member state........
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opin ... 013/07/23/


My thoughts exactly. But the stance of the EU is not at all inexplicable. It is dictated by the logic of the "enormous Turkish market" and, of cource, the instructions of Uncle Sam.


But "Uncle Sam" would not allow the EU to boycott Israel if it could prevent it, surely?

The EU has to decide if it's going to be directed purely by financial measures (most probably) or by political pressures. Maybe one has to come before the other.

Anyway, I don't think the EU has decided on its own stance with Turkey yet. But once it does, and if it wishes to boycott, we need to have our reasons for objecting to the Israeli boycott pretty straight. The article is good at highlighting why Turkey's occupation of Cyprus is completely different to that of Israel's position and I think we need to support those differences and foreground them.
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Re: Occupied Territories’: What about Cyprus, Kashmir, Tibet

Postby Flying Horse » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:07 pm

Its quite simple really.

If the world was to pressure Turkey into removing itself from Cyprus, it would mean that the EU would have to allow Turkey into its exclusive club. The EU don't want Turkey in its exclusive club(really they don't, never mind what news articles say), so therefore if everyone ignores the Cyprus problem, and just acknowledge it every now and again whilst it hides under a very large rug nobody has to worry about Turkey.
Lets face it, nobody likes Turkey, so maybe it should just accept it, and go off snivelling into a corner....preferably facing a wall, like a chastised child at school lunchtime for being naughty :P
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