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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:02 pm

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For sure, you're clearly mentally very young. :D There's so much you don't know - especially about *your* so-called "national" airline and anything to do with "peace".

You also know bugger-all about TA's dreadful safety record - so for someone with nothing to contribute on Turkey's desperation to join the EU, may I suggest you go and stand quietly, *peacefully* in a little park surrounded by tear-gas-chucking friends of yours ...



What kind of issues do you have really to call yourself a "girl"? I mean it is an insult to even to rum girls. Thank God we saved our girls from people like you thanks to Peace Operation.


You're clearly very tired trying to *think*- .... runaway little *boy*. :P

Mind you don't trip on your shoelaces - poor safety record ....
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby stpier » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:04 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
stpier wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
stpier wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
For sure, you're clearly mentally very young. :D There's so much you don't know - especially about *your* so-called "national" airline and anything to do with "peace".

You also know bugger-all about TA's dreadful safety record - so for someone with nothing to contribute on Turkey's desperation to join the EU, may I suggest you go and stand quietly, *peacefully* in a little park surrounded by tear-gas-chucking friends of yours ...



What kind of issues do you have really to call yourself a "girl"? I mean it is an insult to even to rum girls. Thank God we saved our girls from people like you thanks to Peace Operation.


You're clearly very tired trying to *think*- .... runaway little *boy*. :P

Mind you don't trip on your shoelaces - poor safety record ....


60 yo ugly rum woman calling herself a girl. I may have to vomit soon. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:09 pm

Well, you shouldn't drink your milk so fast. Especially since Turks have Asiatic lactose intolerance levels ...
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby stpier » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:12 pm

All you need is a marriage and the first night.... No, you won't be able to find a rum at that age but there should always be a miserable Brit around, even for you.
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:02 am

Right thank you Oracle and Skidmark for the laughs and misinformation.

Now for the facts!

Turkish Airlines is the Turkish National Flag carrier. Half the company is owned by the Turkish Government (just like Cyprus Airways). The other half was floated on the Turkish Stock Exchange and most of these shares are Turkish owned.

Turkish Airlines are a very safe airline. Unfortunately for you Oracle, assessing an airline's safety is not just a matter of comparing how many passengers were killed. It is a lot more involved that that, but in any case, it provided for good insight into your madness and thanks for the laughs.

Turkish Airlines is one of the biggest airlines in the world. To ascertain whether it is safe or not, airlines are compared on many things including deaths and incidents on a per 100,000 hour basis. This can be the only true measure statistically. There are a number of other factors we won't go into here.

Here is an example: http://www.jacdec.de/jacdec_safety_ranking_2012.htm

According to that, Turkish Airlines is the 60th in the world. They have some improving to do, but hardly an unsafe airline.

Also, Airline Companies can only be as good as their National Regulator. In light of the findings of the Helios Disaster, I will let you ponder on that.

The 1974 DC10 Disaster in France is famous because it is the second biggest Air Disaster in history killing 346 people. This disaster along with the Pan Am/KLM crash in Tenerife are used as prime examples in Human Factors training worldwide by most airlines all over the world because they present good examples that accidents are caused by multiple factors combining to result in the final outcome and also study the Human element/impact (in this case failing to secure the rear cargo door). Cockpit Resource Management also use these accidents as case studies, particularly the Tenerife disaster. This purely looks at the Cockpit Dynamic, whereas Crew Resource Management looks at the complete Cockpit and Cabin Crew dynamic.

Unfortunately for you Oracle, Flight 981 crashed because a French Ground Handler did not properly secure and lock the rear cargo door! A very tragic accident that could have been avoided if the Ground Handler new how to read English and followed the door closing procedure. There was also a DC10 design fault with the Door pins which resulted in a DC10 Air Directive to repair this fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Ai ... Flight_981

Also, Turkish Airlines are very much in control as to who they employ. There is absolutely no input from any foreign interests. Turkish Aircraft have the TC registration designator, and as such all crew must possess a Turkish Air Transport Pilot License to operate these Turkish Registered aircraft.

There are confirmed reports that Turkish Airlines have employed a number of Greek Pilots from Olympic and Aegean. There are now unconfirmed reports that Turkish Airlines has employed Greek Cypriot pilots as well. This is a very interesting development if it is true.

It also shows that politics have no place in running an airline. So both of you, grow up and stick to the facts and don't talk rubbish! :roll:
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby stpier » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:15 am

Paphitis wrote: So both of you, grow up and stick to the facts and don't talk rubbish! :roll:


Both of us??? There is nothing against me here. Thank you for contradicting liar shithead's rubbish.
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:17 am

stpier wrote:
Paphitis wrote: So both of you, grow up and stick to the facts and don't talk rubbish! :roll:


Both of us??? There is nothing against me here. Thank you for contradicting liar shithead's rubbish.


How many times did I ask you to comment on the safety record and you declined? :P

The foreign airlines with the worst fatality records are:

Turkish Airlines 3.60
Indian Airlines 3.53
Aeromexico 1.76
Japan Airlines 1.36
SwissAir 1.20


http://www.consumerwarningnetwork.com/2 ... he-safest/

It's anyone's guess who owns the 51% of TA - it's in "free float" because Air France and Lufthansa turned it down, so it was offered to foreigners who also strongly control your stock markets so it's 51% foreign owned as opposed to being a "national" company.

Now, go and play with the your new free floater friend above who trolls the forum.
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:21 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
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Paphitis wrote: So both of you, grow up and stick to the facts and don't talk rubbish! :roll:


Both of us??? There is nothing against me here. Thank you for contradicting liar shithead's rubbish.


How many times did I ask you to comment on the safety record and you declined? :P

It's anyone's guess who owns the 51% of TA - it's in "free float" because Air France and Lufthansa turned it down.

Now, go and play with the your new free floater friend above who trolls the forum.


He is quite right not to reply.

How can anyone reply to your stupid claims and assertions when you don't even know what you're talking about?

The safety record according to reputed sources is fine by anyone's standards.
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:26 am

stpier wrote:
Paphitis wrote: So both of you, grow up and stick to the facts and don't talk rubbish! :roll:


Both of us??? There is nothing against me here. Thank you for contradicting liar shithead's rubbish.


Yes absolutely! Both of you are talking childish drivel.

You have even attempted to insult Cypriot and Greek Airlines by claiming they are small and are not a member of the Star Alliance which is completely false.

Aegean Airlines is quite some airline and are doing a terrific job at being Greece's new Flag Carrier Airline and are closely linked to Lufthansa.

Cyprus Airways may soon become Cyprus Air. For a tiny country of 800K, they too will be OK provided they can run the airline properly as a fully privatized airline.

Both have a small Aviation Market compared to Turkey (80 million).
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Re: Turkeys EU accession progress report - 2013

Postby stpier » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:44 am

Paphitis wrote:
stpier wrote:
Paphitis wrote: So both of you, grow up and stick to the facts and don't talk rubbish! :roll:


Both of us??? There is nothing against me here. Thank you for contradicting liar shithead's rubbish.


Yes absolutely! Both of you are talking childish drivel.

You have even attempted to insult Cypriot and Greek Airlines by claiming they are small and are not a member of the Star Alliance which is completely false.

Aegean Airlines is quite some airline and are doing a terrific job at being Greece's new Flag Carrier Airline and are closely linked to Lufthansa.

Cyprus Airways may soon become Cyprus Air. For a tiny country of 800K, they too will be OK provided they can run the airline properly as a fully privatized airline.

Both have a small Aviation Market compared to Turkey (80 million).


I never commented on Aegean which is our sister airline! :evil:
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