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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby Milo » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:57 am

Milti, your love of your country is beautiful, I feel the same about mine now, I live rurally and am back where I belong.

But your love coupled with your insight is just what Cyprus needs, I hope you at least consider local politics when you return permanently. You could do so much and I'm sure find others like yourself.

Cyprus needs fresh and open minds IMO, I lived there for a long time and found its beauty but also it's cruelty, which is very overt and cannot be ignored.

I left my beautiful home there to others to be back in my beloved country ( but that's another story ) and I took my two rescued Cyprus cats with me! milo and Molly, one almost blind from when we found her alone nearly dead, the other seriously ill in a Larnaca pet shop, it took two months and a lot of money to get him back to health, I reported the pet shop, but it's still there selling pets! Another thing that should be banned selling dogs and kittens in pet shops, there are enough abandoned outside!

There is a Facebook website called CALF which is run by young Cypriots questioning the animal cruelty in their country and the govts total apathy towards it, it's very graphic but it the people need shocking and there are threats to show the photos to tourists in order to get something done, they question the cat calendars, photos, etc for sale all over Cyprus when most cats are deliberately poisened all over the island and especially at the end of seasons near hotels.

It's one reason we couldn't stomach living amongst it, when a close friend had his dog poisioned you have to ask WHY others want to kill your animals! I'm lucky my two avoided the hunters guns for five years, now they're safe, thicker coats of course in this cold climate, but happier and safer.

But you could do good Milti, I hope you think about it. Cyprus with people like you in it would be even better. X
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby miltiades » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:46 am

Milo wrote:Milti, your love of your country is beautiful, I feel the same about mine now, I live rurally and am back where I belong.

But your love coupled with your insight is just what Cyprus needs, I hope you at least consider local politics when you return permanently. You could do so much and I'm sure find others like yourself.

Cyprus needs fresh and open minds IMO, I lived there for a long time and found its beauty but also it's cruelty, which is very overt and cannot be ignored.

I left my beautiful home there to others to be back in my beloved country ( but that's another story ) and I took my two rescued Cyprus cats with me! milo and Molly, one almost blind from when we found her alone nearly dead, the other seriously ill in a Larnaca pet shop, it took two months and a lot of money to get him back to health, I reported the pet shop, but it's still there selling pets! Another thing that should be banned selling dogs and kittens in pet shops, there are enough abandoned outside!

There is a Facebook website called CALF which is run by young Cypriots questioning the animal cruelty in their country and the govts total apathy towards it, it's very graphic but it the people need shocking and there are threats to show the photos to tourists in order to get something done, they question the cat calendars, photos, etc for sale all over Cyprus when most cats are deliberately poisened all over the island and especially at the end of seasons near hotels.

It's one reason we couldn't stomach living amongst it, when a close friend had his dog poisioned you have to ask WHY others want to kill your animals! I'm lucky my two avoided the hunters guns for five years, now they're safe, thicker coats of course in this cold climate, but happier and safer.

But you could do good Milti, I hope you think about it. Cyprus with people like you in it would be even better. X

Thank you Milo for your kind words.

Soon I'm hoping to move permanently to Cyprus, my paradise on earth.

I have always been mentally and physically active , due I think to my very early in life accelerated entry into adulthood, one reason my other third is less than half my age !!!!

On my last visit to Cyprus I had the immense pleasure and honour to meet Mr Panos Vozikis, a poet, a philosopher, a professor of Greek who taught in a New York university for more than 30 years. I was so happy that we shared so much, his love of animals for starters, his highly honed sense of justice and prudence, his adulation of his own country, Greece- He was born in Greece- his no nonsense views on much that goes on both in Greece and Cyprus.

Critical and wise comments on both social structures ie Cyprus and Greece.

As a Cypriot I can express discerning views on Cyprus without anyone telling me to mind my own business and go back to where I came from. Cyprus IS my business, the future of our young generation, my own grandchildrens , IS my business.

My first focus on returning to Cyprus has been a burning ambition of mine for many years now, to familiarize my self with every field, every river, every mountain, get to visit villages, ancient sites, absorb as much knowledge of my birth place in readiness for my eventual departure...

Politics has been a hobby of mine throughout my life, but social and environmental issues is what I would wish to concentrate upon. There are vulnerable people that few care about, I once was a vulnerable young 7 year old boy and experienced at first hand a great deal. Almost daily in Limassol I visit a Cafe facing the old Orphanage, now a car par, I reminisce and place my self 60 years in the past, those date trees are still there, and those memories much alive.

I love the Cypriot people irrespective of their social, financial or educational status. People will react and reciprocate in the vast majority of " interactional" behaviour.A smile goes a long way, a compliment too and the ability to genuinely and unpretentiously listen and show genuine interest.

At this moment of time I'm reliving my late wifes ordeal and battle with cancer as my 37 year old daughter in law is waging her own battle, my son needs me for support here in the UK. Life is a bitch as they say....
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:57 am

Milo wrote:Cyprus needs fresh and open minds IMO, I lived there for a long time and found its beauty but also it's cruelty, which is very overt and cannot be ignored.

Now that you’re back in Old Blighty here’s a new mission for you:

Badger cull: Attenborough condemns UK government for 'ignoring' science
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... tenborough

Badger cull in Somerset: on the trail of the marksmen - video
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... rset-video

Badger cull extended as kills fall short of target
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24455912

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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby Milo » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:00 am

Yes life can be a bitch Milti, I hope your DIL finds the strength in the love of her family to overcome this cruel disease which I know took your wife too early...

I have my battle with it now too, normal isn't normal anymore, but I have much to live for and I will.
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby miltiades » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:20 am

Get Real! wrote:
Milo wrote:Cyprus needs fresh and open minds IMO, I lived there for a long time and found its beauty but also it's cruelty, which is very overt and cannot be ignored.

Now that you’re back in Old Blighty here’s a new mission for you:

Badger cull: Attenborough condemns UK government for 'ignoring' science
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... tenborough

Badger cull in Somerset: on the trail of the marksmen - video
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... rset-video

Badger cull extended as kills fall short of target
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24455912

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Badger-Cull-Activity.jpg

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pacmap_2.jpg

You can never totally eradicate cruelty to animals or for that matter cruelty to humans, we are however dealing with what is happening on our own doorstep.
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:14 pm

miltiades wrote:You can never totally eradicate cruelty to animals or for that matter cruelty to humans, we are however dealing with what is happening on our own doorstep.


It's your punkawalla mentality that makes you think that Britain is a beacon against animal cruelty. On the surface it's fine .. but underneath, it has at least as far to go as any other European country.

- Wake up to Cyprus of today and leave your 50's mentality behind.

The average Cypriot of today is more highly educated than the average British person.

- We can find our own course, our own BETTER way of doing things ... so stop looking to the British way of life as the ONLY way to follow.

We are a progressive people, we adapt, we learn, we judge responsibly and strive for a better environment and a brighter future.


The above is the only redeeming thing you have said. Well done.
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby miltiades » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:54 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
miltiades wrote:You can never totally eradicate cruelty to animals or for that matter cruelty to humans, we are however dealing with what is happening on our own doorstep.


It's your punkawalla mentality that makes you think that Britain is a beacon against animal cruelty. On the surface it's fine .. but underneath, it has at least as far to go as any other European country.

- Wake up to Cyprus of today and leave your 50's mentality behind.

The average Cypriot of today is more highly educated than the average British person.

- We can find our own course, our own BETTER way of doing things ... so stop looking to the British way of life as the ONLY way to follow.

We are a progressive people, we adapt, we learn, we judge responsibly and strive for a better environment and a brighter future.


The above is the only redeeming thing you have said. Well done.

More utterly irrelevant comments from you ,I'm afraid. I never, either mentioned or compared Cyprus to Britain.
It seems to me that your blinkers are far tighter than I thought they were.
Be a sensible woman and accept that unless you remove your blinkers you would always be in defense of the indefensible.

If indeed you love Cyprus as I do you will join me and others in condemning any cruelty to animals, forget Britain, we are not talking about Britain, Afghanistan or Syria !!!
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:42 pm

miltiades wrote: ...I never, either mentioned or compared Cyprus to Britain..... forget Britain, we are not talking about Britain ...


Hade reh, Milty mou, who are you trying to fool?

miltiades wrote:Much has changed since the 50s, thanks mainly to Brits and Charlies, animal welfare has improved and Cypriots are more aware of the feelings of animals than in years gone by.


My point is that some aspects of animal welfare have improved since the 50s - everywhere - and it is not "thanks mainly to Brits".
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:08 am

Milo wrote:Milti, your love of your country is beautiful, I feel the same about mine now, I live rurally and am back where I belong.

But your love coupled with your insight is just what Cyprus needs, I hope you at least consider local politics when you return permanently. You could do so much and I'm sure find others like yourself.

Cyprus needs fresh and open minds IMO, I lived there for a long time and found its beauty but also it's cruelty, which is very overt and cannot be ignored.

I left my beautiful home there to others to be back in my beloved country ( but that's another story ) and I took my two rescued Cyprus cats with me! milo and Molly, one almost blind from when we found her alone nearly dead, the other seriously ill in a Larnaca pet shop, it took two months and a lot of money to get him back to health, I reported the pet shop, but it's still there selling pets! Another thing that should be banned selling dogs and kittens in pet shops, there are enough abandoned outside!

There is a Facebook website called CALF which is run by young Cypriots questioning the animal cruelty in their country and the govts total apathy towards it, it's very graphic but it the people need shocking and there are threats to show the photos to tourists in order to get something done, they question the cat calendars, photos, etc for sale all over Cyprus when most cats are deliberately poisened all over the island and especially at the end of seasons near hotels.

It's one reason we couldn't stomach living amongst it, when a close friend had his dog poisioned you have to ask WHY others want to kill your animals! I'm lucky my two avoided the hunters guns for five years, now they're safe, thicker coats of course in this cold climate, but happier and safer.

But you could do good Milti, I hope you think about it. Cyprus with people like you in it would be even better. X


Get back in your cage Milo. :evil:
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Re: CYPRIOT'S ATTITUDE TO ANIMALS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:19 am

The reality...



And the good news! Cypriots are becoming more aware and sensitive about animal welfare.

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