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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:05 pm

Round and round they go ... :roll:

... weather's nice in Famagusta Bay at this time of year... :D
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby Cap » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:22 pm

:lol:
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby B25 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:46 pm

These maneuveres say it all about Turkeys seriousness for a solution. Such provocation that goes uncontested, unheard within the EU and UN and they expect the GCs to be good little children and do as the demand.
In fact the RoC should INSIST that such actions be terminated before any talks, before any lifting of vetos and even to the point if closing crossing points citing national security. Jesus, how hard can it ge. But then we are blessed with pussies as politicians, I suppose we can't really expect much more.
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:45 pm

B25 wrote:These maneuveres say it all about Turkeys seriousness for a solution. Such provocation that goes uncontested, unheard within the EU and UN and they expect the GCs to be good little children and do as the demand.
In fact the RoC should INSIST that such actions be terminated before any talks, before any lifting of vetos and even to the point if closing crossing points citing national security. Jesus, how hard can it ge. But then we are blessed with pussies as politicians, I suppose we can't really expect much more.


Thoroughly agree. Cyprus should start using whatever veto powers it has to disrupt anything, correction, EVERYTHING involving payment of OUR taxpayers money to the Turks and the Puppet regime in the illegal Psuedo state and the negotiations for Turkish entry.

It is intolerable that EU is prepared to allow candidature to any state in illegal occupation of another state, (contrary to UN resolutions) as Turkey is.
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby erolz66 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:18 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Thoroughly agree. Cyprus should start using whatever veto powers it has to disrupt anything, correction, EVERYTHING involving payment of OUR taxpayers money to the Turks and the Puppet regime in the illegal Psuedo state and the negotiations for Turkish entry.


The problem for you there is you agreed along with all the other EU member states to such aid. I know you have a history of agreeing things, then having agreed them claiming it was done under duress and thus you are not bound by any such agreements, but it is not quite as easy to get away with that as it was in the past ;)

Anyway have a look at this

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_PRES-04-115_en.htm

Have a look at the attendees. ( clue - Cyprus : Mr George IACOVOU Minister for Foreign Affairs)

Have a look at Items debate especially this section

The Council adopted the following conclusions:

The Turkish Cypriot community have expressed their clear desire for a future within the European Union. The Council is determined to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community and to facilitate the reunification of Cyprus by encouraging the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community.


And remember this 'council' included the Cypriot representative above.

So you could 'change your minds' now - but I do not think would go down to well with EU commission or fellow member states ?

And one final one for you to look at.

http://ec.europa.eu/cyprus/documents/20 ... ochure.pdf
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:47 pm

erolz66 wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Thoroughly agree. Cyprus should start using whatever veto powers it has to disrupt anything, correction, EVERYTHING involving payment of OUR taxpayers money to the Turks and the Puppet regime in the illegal Psuedo state and the negotiations for Turkish entry.


The problem for you there is you agreed along with all the other EU member states to such aid. I know you have a history of agreeing things, then having agreed them claiming it was done under duress and thus you are not bound by any such agreements, but it is not quite as easy to get away with that as it was in the past ;)

Anyway have a look at this

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_PRES-04-115_en.htm

Have a look at the attendees. ( clue - Cyprus : Mr George IACOVOU Minister for Foreign Affairs)

Have a look at Items debate especially this section

The Council adopted the following conclusions:

The Turkish Cypriot community have expressed their clear desire for a future within the European Union. The Council is determined to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community and to facilitate the reunification of Cyprus by encouraging the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community.


And remember this 'council' included the Cypriot representative above.

So you could 'change your minds' now - but I do not think would go down to well with EU commission or fellow member states ?

And one final one for you to look at.

http://ec.europa.eu/cyprus/documents/20 ... ochure.pdf

I personally never agreed. At least not with the current arrangements.

The biggest assistance to Turkish speaking Cypriots would be for the invaders to go, taking with them the post 74 illegal settlers and the carpet b*ggers living in Stolen property. Then I would have no problem with financial aid directed towards Turkish Speaking Cypriots.
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby Demonax » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:52 pm

erolz66 wrote:
The Council adopted the following conclusions:

The Turkish Cypriot community have expressed their clear desire for a future within the European Union. The Council is determined to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community and to facilitate the reunification of Cyprus by encouraging the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community.


And remember this 'council' included the Cypriot representative above.

So you could 'change your minds' now - but I do not think would go down to well with EU commission or fellow member states ?


Two things. GCs agreed to these funds on condition that they were not being used for projects on GC properties. Now questions have been asked of the Commission on the distribution of these funds in the occupied areas:

http://famagusta-gazette.com/house-comm ... 491-69.htm

Secondly, the EU has recently established a precedent regarding Israel that EU funds cannot be used in territories that are deemed as under foreign occupation. There are likely grounds for a legal clarification on the status of EU funding in occupied Cyprus:

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Cont ... ory-327329

So you see, if Cyprus wanted to it could find grounds on which to 'change its mind’ and I imagine we could live with the consequences of being scolded by Stefan Fule.
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby erolz66 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:14 pm

Demonax wrote:So you see, if Cyprus so chose it could 'change its mind’ and I imagine we could live with the consequences of being scolded by Stefan Fule.


You can 'change your mind' but if you seriously think the only consequences of doing so would be being scolded by Stephen Fule then I personally think you are underestimating the consequences. One has to wonder why you have not done so already if doing so is so easy ?

In any case the funds to the TC community from the EU are tiny compared to those from Turkey.
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:26 pm

:(

Yes, yes, yes... very interesting boys, but if we could please make an effort to stay on thread on the curious surveying by the Barbaros.

So, here's the track for the past 24 hours...

(The little Red Triangle near Occupied Bogazi is a tanker re-fuelling the power station there.)
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Re: A Most Curious Seismic Survey

Postby B25 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:32 pm

erolz66 wrote:One has to wonder why you have not done so already if doing so is so


Main reason is we don't have any mps with balls. Tye consequences woukd be nothing to worry about just as turkey diesn' t worry about un resolution violations.
What the average tc doesn't appreciate it the benefits that the RoC affords them on the quiet.

If i were in charge things would be very different, just kiss yoyr lucky stars our mps are a bunch of pussies, current and past, and most probably future as well.
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