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What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby cyfo » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:35 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4YSk7aL8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2r_lIRgpY

How to deal with a runaway diesel engine?
«Runaway engine » is the situation that turbo in some or most cases brakes and then the diesel engine starts to eat its own engine oil. The engine runs and accelerates with itself, burning its only oil supply. Even if you take your foot off the fuel petal or switch off the ignition the engine keep accelerating feeding itself from engine oil. As you are traveling smoothly suddenly the car accelerates itself without your control. Reacting in an unsafe manner or letting the «Runaway engine and the car to accelerate without control could cause a dangerous situation to you and other people.
How to react in a situation like this
1. Firstly, don’t panic. Concentrate on safe operation of your vehicle. Keep control through braking and steering to keep the car straight on the road.
2. Take your foot completely off the accelerator pedal to cut off the fuel, but if the runaway is strong the engine is already feeding off the engine oil and won't stop on its own.
3. Pull the clutch down and take the gear off.
4. Apply breaking smoothly until the car stops off the line
5. Turn the ignition key to "OFF". Turning the keys doesn´t stop the engine in this case. Don’t take the Key out because you will lock the steering wheel.
6. Once the car stops, you still must put in the highest gear, 4th or 5th, hold the brakes or handbrake and slowly release the clutch to kill the engine. This is the best thing to do to stall the engine and stop it destroying itself saving yourself an engine.
If saving the engine can cause a possible injury, death, or damage to you or a 3rd party just get out, run away from the smoking car and let the engine run until it kills itself and stops.
Advice: always have a handy CO2 Extinguisher in a diesel.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby kurupetos » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:19 pm

Don't buy Japanese crap.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:57 pm

cyfo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4YSk7aL8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2r_lIRgpY

How to deal with a runaway diesel engine?
«Runaway engine » is the situation that turbo in some or most cases brakes and then the diesel engine starts to eat its own engine oil. The engine runs and accelerates with itself, burning its only oil supply. Even if you take your foot off the fuel petal or switch off the ignition the engine keep accelerating feeding itself from engine oil. As you are traveling smoothly suddenly the car accelerates itself without your control. Reacting in an unsafe manner or letting the «Runaway engine and the car to accelerate without control could cause a dangerous situation to you and other people.
How to react in a situation like this
1. Firstly, don’t panic. Concentrate on safe operation of your vehicle. Keep control through braking and steering to keep the car straight on the road.
2. Take your foot completely off the accelerator pedal to cut off the fuel, but if the runaway is strong the engine is already feeding off the engine oil and won't stop on its own.
3. Pull the clutch down and take the gear off.
4. Apply breaking smoothly until the car stops off the line
5. Turn the ignition key to "OFF". Turning the keys doesn´t stop the engine in this case. Don’t take the Key out because you will lock the steering wheel.
6. Once the car stops, you still must put in the highest gear, 4th or 5th, hold the brakes or handbrake and slowly release the clutch to kill the engine. This is the best thing to do to stall the engine and stop it destroying itself saving yourself an engine.
If saving the engine can cause a possible injury, death, or damage to you or a 3rd party just get out, run away from the smoking car and let the engine run until it kills itself and stops.
Advice: always have a handy CO2 Extinguisher in a diesel.


Yes, stall the engine.... sound advise.

... speaking of turbos, advice given many years ago was to make the bearings on turbos last, by letting the engine run for a bit after stopping to let them cool down, esp after high speed cruising.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:44 am

Oh dear. Didn't know about this little thing to worry about. :|

Sometimes, my diesel car (4X4) revs up by itself, usually when I am in 2nd or 3rd gear going quite slow, 10 to 15 mph. It seems to just take over and I can take my foot off the accelerator and just cruise along until it eventually stops revving and I can take control again with the accelerator.

Is this a sign of this sort of trouble - runaway engine - likely to happen soon?
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:47 am

They just don't make cars like they used to :roll:

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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby Jerry » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:33 am

bill cobbett wrote:
cyfo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4YSk7aL8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2r_lIRgpY

How to deal with a runaway diesel engine?
«Runaway engine » is the situation that turbo in some or most cases brakes and then the diesel engine starts to eat its own engine oil. The engine runs and accelerates with itself, burning its only oil supply. Even if you take your foot off the fuel petal or switch off the ignition the engine keep accelerating feeding itself from engine oil. As you are traveling smoothly suddenly the car accelerates itself without your control. Reacting in an unsafe manner or letting the «Runaway engine and the car to accelerate without control could cause a dangerous situation to you and other people.
How to react in a situation like this
1. Firstly, don’t panic. Concentrate on safe operation of your vehicle. Keep control through braking and steering to keep the car straight on the road.
2. Take your foot completely off the accelerator pedal to cut off the fuel, but if the runaway is strong the engine is already feeding off the engine oil and won't stop on its own.
3. Pull the clutch down and take the gear off.
4. Apply breaking smoothly until the car stops off the line
5. Turn the ignition key to "OFF". Turning the keys doesn´t stop the engine in this case. Don’t take the Key out because you will lock the steering wheel.
6. Once the car stops, you still must put in the highest gear, 4th or 5th, hold the brakes or handbrake and slowly release the clutch to kill the engine. This is the best thing to do to stall the engine and stop it destroying itself saving yourself an engine.
If saving the engine can cause a possible injury, death, or damage to you or a 3rd party just get out, run away from the smoking car and let the engine run until it kills itself and stops.
Advice: always have a handy CO2 Extinguisher in a diesel.


Yes, stall the engine.... sound advise.

... speaking of turbos, advice given many years ago was to make the bearings on turbos last, by letting the engine run for a bit after stopping to let them cool down, esp after high speed cruising.


Quite right Bill, the oil that lubricates the turbo carbonises in the hot feed pipe, eventually it gets blocked and the bearings seize. I believe some modern diesel turbos have overcome the problem.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:19 am

Jerry wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
cyfo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4YSk7aL8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2r_lIRgpY

How to deal with a runaway diesel engine?
«Runaway engine » is the situation that turbo in some or most cases brakes and then the diesel engine starts to eat its own engine oil. The engine runs and accelerates with itself, burning its only oil supply. Even if you take your foot off the fuel petal or switch off the ignition the engine keep accelerating feeding itself from engine oil. As you are traveling smoothly suddenly the car accelerates itself without your control. Reacting in an unsafe manner or letting the «Runaway engine and the car to accelerate without control could cause a dangerous situation to you and other people.
How to react in a situation like this
1. Firstly, don’t panic. Concentrate on safe operation of your vehicle. Keep control through braking and steering to keep the car straight on the road.
2. Take your foot completely off the accelerator pedal to cut off the fuel, but if the runaway is strong the engine is already feeding off the engine oil and won't stop on its own.
3. Pull the clutch down and take the gear off.
4. Apply breaking smoothly until the car stops off the line
5. Turn the ignition key to "OFF". Turning the keys doesn´t stop the engine in this case. Don’t take the Key out because you will lock the steering wheel.
6. Once the car stops, you still must put in the highest gear, 4th or 5th, hold the brakes or handbrake and slowly release the clutch to kill the engine. This is the best thing to do to stall the engine and stop it destroying itself saving yourself an engine.
If saving the engine can cause a possible injury, death, or damage to you or a 3rd party just get out, run away from the smoking car and let the engine run until it kills itself and stops.
Advice: always have a handy CO2 Extinguisher in a diesel.


Yes, stall the engine.... sound advise.

... speaking of turbos, advice given many years ago was to make the bearings on turbos last, by letting the engine run for a bit after stopping to let them cool down, esp after high speed cruising.


Quite right Bill, the oil that lubricates the turbo carbonises in the hot feed pipe, eventually it gets blocked and the bearings seize. I believe some modern diesel turbos have overcome the problem.


Ah yes, that's how it was explained to us as well. Must be us less young motorists who let engines run for a little while after stopping. Still do.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:22 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Oh dear. Didn't know about this little thing to worry about. :|

Sometimes, my diesel car (4X4) revs up by itself, usually when I am in 2nd or 3rd gear going quite slow, 10 to 15 mph. It seems to just take over and I can take my foot off the accelerator and just cruise along until it eventually stops revving and I can take control again with the accelerator.

Is this a sign of this sort of trouble - runaway engine - likely to happen soon?


Make, model, engine and year of car. ...???

... but a few guesses...

... most basic is the mat/carpet fouling the throttle, then it may be sticky throttle cable (try pulling up the throttle and see what happens), or perished fuel rubbers or perished diaphragm in the pump or the fuel idle regulator may need cleaning.

Then electronics... modern cars are packed with engine management sensors and actuators, some even have "fly-by-wire" throttle control so there's no throttle cable to go sticky. So it may be the case that something's gone awry with the car's brains, something called an ECU, which can be put right by restoring it to factory settings (5 minute job at a garage)

Some things can be diagnosed by a garage using the car's diagnostics system. Some mechanics swear by these, others swear at them.

Also worth using the premium grade of diesel, a couple of p more expensive but it's cleaner, less likely to clog things up.

(... but don't start me off on the things they add to modern engines (particularly diesels) for pollution control, things which do nothing for performance and all eventually causing problems, such as EGR valves (grrrrr!), DPF filters and very pricey catalytic convertors (grrrrrrrrr!!!).

Ah... speaking of DPFs (filters)... if you have one, they filter out the particles from the exhaust, they regenerate automatically when the engine reaches a certain temp and speed, but they need motorway speeds to regenerate, so if you're pottering around at slower speeds with no hard driving, be aware they will clog up.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby Jerry » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:27 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Oh dear. Didn't know about this little thing to worry about. :|

Sometimes, my diesel car (4X4) revs up by itself, usually when I am in 2nd or 3rd gear going quite slow, 10 to 15 mph. It seems to just take over and I can take my foot off the accelerator and just cruise along until it eventually stops revving and I can take control again with the accelerator.

Is this a sign of this sort of trouble - runaway engine - likely to happen soon?



There is probably an owners club for your make of car. Try googling "Ford (or whatever make you have) owners club". You should be able to get advice from an expert or someone who has had similar experience.
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Re: What happens when your turbo gets stuck

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:50 am

Jerry wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Oh dear. Didn't know about this little thing to worry about. :|

Sometimes, my diesel car (4X4) revs up by itself, usually when I am in 2nd or 3rd gear going quite slow, 10 to 15 mph. It seems to just take over and I can take my foot off the accelerator and just cruise along until it eventually stops revving and I can take control again with the accelerator.

Is this a sign of this sort of trouble - runaway engine - likely to happen soon?



There is probably an owners club for your make of car. Try googling "Ford (or whatever make you have) owners club". You should be able to get advice from an expert or someone who has had similar experience.


the "honest John" website in the UK is a good place for information, but I am not sure they have much on Broomsticks....
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