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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:22 pm

Wow, I have been away too long 'Nice Lady'. I forgot what it was like here. :D

Very heart warming. I feel at home. :)
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby kurupetos » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:31 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Wow, I have been away too long 'Nice Lady'. I forgot what it was like here. :D

Very heart warming. I feel at home. :)

It's not warm in north London. :?
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:16 pm

Poor you KP. I will suggest you get a one wAy ticket to hell from BillC. He can procur anything. Its a tad warmer there. Besides, you will not be alone. :D

I do not live in Norf Londino! :twisted:
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby kurupetos » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Poor you KP. I will suggest you get a one wAy ticket to hell from BillC. He can procur anything. Its a tad warmer there. Besides, you will not be alone. :D

I do not live in Norf Londino! :twisted:

:lol: To be honest, right now it's not warm in suburban Nicosia. There is some light snow fall as I post this. :shock: :D :lol:
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:30 am

kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Poor you KP. I will suggest you get a one wAy ticket to hell from BillC. He can procur anything. Its a tad warmer there. Besides, you will not be alone. :D

I do not live in Norf Londino! :twisted:

:lol: To be honest, right now it's not warm in suburban Nicosia. There is some light snow fall as I post this. :shock: :D :lol:

Your Christmas has arrived early then. Ask permission and you might be allowed to open your presents early. :D
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:12 am

I have in fact found out that Colour was something that something that some ancient Greek writers used to characterise entire races: A writer (or writers) often called Psuedo-Aristotle writing in about 300 BC wrote thus in the treatise "Physiognomy":

Those who adopted the second method proceeded in the same way, except that they did not draw their inferences from all kinds of animals but confined themselves to human beings: they distinguished various races of men (e. g. Egyptian, Thracian, Scythian) by differences of appearance and of character, and drew their signs of character from these races just as others did from animal genera.


Too black a hue marks the coward, as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians, l and so does also too white a complexion, as you may see from women.


(Note he was sexist too.....)
and further on

and very woolly hair also signifies cowardice, as may be seen in Ethiopians.


For the source see https://archive.org/stream/worksaristotle00arisuoft/worksaristotle00arisuoft.txt

NOTE These are almost certainly NOT the works of Aristotle himself, but of third century BC imitators.
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:15 pm

None of those examples are indicative of "racism". Neither is your suggestion that mentioning women's paler complexions is "sexist".

Stop digging!

If it's examples of rampant racism, anti-semitism and mass-slavery that you want ... look no further than Colonialist Britain.
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:20 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:None of those examples are indicative of "racism". Neither is your suggestion that mentioning women's paler complexions is "sexist".

Stop digging!

If it's examples of rampant racism, anti-semitism and mass-slavery that you want ... look no further than Colonialist Britain.


No but claiming women are cowards on the basis of complexion I would have thought is a sexist attitude.

It is quite obvious that you have only superficially read the sections I quoted and have thought even less about what the author is saying . I would say calling someone from Egypt or Ethiopia a coward simply on the basis of the colour of their skin or Ethiopians based the curliness of their hair is racist.

a song highlighting racism referring to Skin Colour and curly hair
INTRODUCTION:
When I was born they christened me plain Samuel Johnson Brown
But I hadn't grown so very big, 'fore some folks in this town
Had changed it 'round to "Sambo"; I was "Rastus" to a few
Then "Chocolate Drop" was added by some others that I knew
And then to cap the climax, I was strolling down the line
When someone shouted, "Fellas, hey! Come on and pipe the shine!"
But I don't care a bit. Here's how I figure it:
Well, just because my hair is curly
And just because my teeth are pearly
Just because I always wear a smile
Likes to dress up in the latest style*
Just because I'm glad I'm livin'
Takes trouble smilin', never whine
Just because my color's shady
Slightly different maybe
That's why they call me shine.

based apparently on true incident in the 1900 New York Race Riots
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby kurupetos » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Poor you KP. I will suggest you get a one wAy ticket to hell from BillC. He can procur anything. Its a tad warmer there. Besides, you will not be alone. :D

I do not live in Norf Londino! :twisted:

:lol: To be honest, right now it's not warm in suburban Nicosia. There is some light snow fall as I post this. :shock: :D :lol:

Your Christmas has arrived early then. Ask permission and you might be allowed to open your presents early. :D

Thanks for reminding me that I have to buy some presents for the kids. :wink:
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Re: "Whites" and "Blacks" as bad as each other?

Postby Oceanside50 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:27 pm

Alexander the Greats' last will and testament. "transplant of populations from Asia to Europe and in the opposite direction from Europe to Asia, in order to bring the largest continent to common unity and to friendship by means of intermarriage and family ties." ...very progressive of him
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