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Postby Main_Source » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:50 am

Why dont you ask GC who they felt more terrorised by...the Ottoman Empire...the British Empire or EOKA.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:23 am

An organization which has caused the death of more GCs than the entire British rule cannot be called a liberation organization. It is clearly a radical fanatical organization which in the name of its political ideology is ready to resort to terrorism even against its own people and uses terror to keep people under submission, cannot be termed nothing but simply a terrorist organization


no problem with that view bg_turk. its an opinion one could find arguments to support, even though i dont completely agree.
BUT, there is a fundamental difference between your view of eoka and saying :

What freedoms did you lack under the Brittish in the first place?

i hope you understand the difference.

its also one thing to say that there were some positive things during the british rule (which is true) but that does not justify them being the rulers of the island.
moreover it is clear in your sentence. if someone is under someone then obviously we have a problem of some being on top and some being under. moreover the fact that it was british and not cypriot is a second reason.

The reason i posted these stupid hindsight questions, when we all know that the past cannot change is that hopefully each would try to view the mistakes of his own society without accusing the others. so , since we cannot change the past i think it helps when we can:
- accept our mistakes
- apologise for our mistakes
- learn from our mistakes
and if you see the first posts from alexios piratis and birkibrisli there is a degree of self-critisism and not accusing the others, which i strongly believe that it is the attitude we need do move in the future.
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hanged young cypriots

Postby lysi » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:49 pm

How many young greek cypriots did the british hang in the 1950s ?
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Postby zan » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:33 am

Q. How did the tcs feel about the British rule before the eoka period? Conquerors? Protectors?

A. If I were a Turk of the day I would have lived through the days when the Ottoman Empire had crumbled and Turkey was formed. The Empire was taken/won/given/reclaimed and Cyprus was now British. I would say the TC of the day would feel tired, scared and conquered.

Q. How do you feel about AKel stance not to participate?

A. Participate in what! The aim of ENOSIS. Despite the argument most GCs use, that the TCs were a minority why would the TCs want to annexe themselves to Greece. Out of the two options of course they are going to opt for TAKSIM.

Q. Were all eoka members’ anti-tcs or some did really fought for their freedom?

A. EOKA proved them selves to be anti anything that got in their way.


Q. Despite the fact that the general view is that TMT was a response to EOKA would you support its actions and goals?

A. If I was in the mind set of the day, YES!
Today, I want as much a peaceful life as the next right thinking man.

Q. If eoka didn’t happen how did the tc view the future of Cyprus at the time?

A. I have no idea.

Q. If the gc are in a position today to accept that the enosis target of eoka was wrong, could you forgive?

A. Most sensible GCs already accept that the target of ENOSIS was wrong. If forgiveness is all that is required, then I forgive. Is it all right to recognise the TRNC now?

Q. What would you change if you could? no eoka at all? or a pan-cypriot anticolonialist organisation?


A. A pan-cypriot anticolonialist organisation sounds more romantic to me. Fighting along side my GC brother against the British colonialists and finally kicking them off the island. How long would it be before Turkey and Greece would start to lay claim to the island what group would we put together to fight those two off?
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:42 pm

thanks zan
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Postby zan » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:25 pm

cypezokyli wrote:thanks zan


I take the time to answer your questions and thats all I get :shock:
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:33 pm

ok then, u also get an official invitation to the to-be-meeting of the forum hopefully in the summer. that is if you are not afraid that i will kill u when u fall asleep. :wink:

satisfied ? :)
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Postby zan » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:44 pm

cypezokyli wrote:ok then, u also get an official invitation to the to-be-meeting of the forum hopefully in the summer. that is if you are not afraid that i will kill u when u fall asleep. :wink:

satisfied ? :)


Now that hurts :cry: I think I will have to refer you to Alexios’s story about the bear and the hunter…

When have I accused you of trying to kill me?
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Postby cypezokyli » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:49 pm

hey sorry if i offended you. but if i am not mistaken you were the one saying :

As for your street full of moderates, I doubt if we would get out of bed in the morning

perhaps wrong interpratation

so i apologise once again
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:25 am

cypezokyli wrote:ok then, u also get an official invitation to the to-be-meeting of the forum hopefully in the summer. that is if you are not afraid that i will kill u when u fall asleep. :wink:

satisfied ? :)

What is this about a party being planned for summer?
Will it be open to everyone,or by invitation only?
Better let me know in advance,I have a long way to come. :wink:
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