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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Any agree with this...

That when we think of wine in a sort of Biblical sense, you know of the JC allegedly turning water in to wine kind, or in a historical sense like Cleopatra bathing in or drinking wine or whatever she did with it, or of the "wine of the gods", that we are thinking about a wine that's something similar to Commandaria and not some rubbish, wishy-washy Cabernet Sauvignon and the rest of the French-derived poor substitutes ...???

When the kingdom of Cyprus was a superpower mastering the Mediterranean waves and parlaying with the great pharaohs of Egypt and other Middle Eastern regional kingdoms like Assyria, Greeks and Turks had not been invented yet!

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/12 ... 386712681/

http://www.archaeology.org/news/1629-cy ... -neolithic

Cyprus is the granddaddy of European civilization.
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby Flying Horse » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:07 pm

They reckon the world's oldest pub and micro brewery was on Cyprus

http://metro.co.uk/2012/11/28/bronze-ag ... y-3077970/
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby Archimedes » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:35 pm

bill cobbett wrote:A marvellous wine, strong and sweet and peppery and packed with flavours. Love it.

Many years ago, you used to see grapes laid out on sheets on the ground to dry. Is this still done???


If your good Bill, Goblin Santa May leave a few bottles for you under the tree. :wink:
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:55 pm

Hesiod mentioned a Cypriot crushed grape wine in 800 BC and archeologists have found evidence of Cypriot wine making as far back as 3500 BC but there is evidence in Greece possibly 500 years older, it was older still in Anatolia and Armenia, and the oldest winemaking traces are in what today is teetotal modern Iran.
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby kurupetos » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:56 pm

Archimedes wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A marvellous wine, strong and sweet and peppery and packed with flavours. Love it.

Many years ago, you used to see grapes laid out on sheets on the ground to dry. Is this still done???


If your good Bill, Goblin Santa May leave a few bottles for you under the tree. :wink:

:shock: :lol:
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby Archimedes » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:04 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Archimedes wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:A marvellous wine, strong and sweet and peppery and packed with flavours. Love it.

Many years ago, you used to see grapes laid out on sheets on the ground to dry. Is this still done???


If your good Bill, Goblin Santa May leave a few bottles for you under the tree. :wink:

:shock: :lol:


We'll he has been behaving himself lately. :mrgreen:
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:55 pm

...water in wine, as in travelling, those days long ago; adding a flavour which actually goes well with meat, as well as with fruits, and cheese, as an essence, and to purify water unknown, being thick, it was easy (worthwhile) to carry.
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:04 am

Cavemen probably ate rotting fruit for the alcohol.
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:35 am

Oooooh.... according to the Guinness Book of WRs ...

"... Cyprus is home to the oldest wine produced in the world. Commandaria is a dessert wine that tastes like a sweet liqueur, rich in flavor and history.

It supposedly got its name from the Crusaders knights of the 13th century, but it appears that it was discovered much earlier, around 2000 BC. ..."


- See more at: http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/01/guinne ... dzkMr.dpuf
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Re: Commandaria: The oldest wine in the world?

Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:44 am

bill cobbett wrote:Oooooh.... according to the Guinness Book of WRs ...

"... Cyprus is home to the oldest wine produced in the world. Commandaria is a dessert wine that tastes like a sweet liqueur, rich in flavor and history.

It supposedly got its name from the Crusaders knights of the 13th century, but it appears that it was discovered much earlier, around 2000 BC. ..."


- See more at: http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/01/guinne ... dzkMr.dpuf

I have always believed that wine is in my blood :lol: Being a True Cypriot one can understand why I love wines so much
alas Koumandaria and Diabetes don't get on well so I stick to the dry variety.

Whilst in Cyprus over Christmas I was given a gift of a Lamitzana of village wine, for me village wine is by far the best in Cyprus,
virgin, potent and full of life, it does not keep longer than a year or two though since it does not contain the preservatives found in bottled wines but a unique and satisfying pleasure in drinking it.
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