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Time to deliver on rights, Rehn warns Turkey

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Postby akiner » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:43 pm

Auch, look here again, can u see any approach about France or Switzerland....-All comments like- Turkey is this, Turkey is that....!!!
Turkey must be their beloved one :lol:

Even this f**l trying to sort Turkey in same category of her vassals in history, whose state culture is not older than 50 years and whose borders was drawn by Englishmen with a pencil and a ruler on the map!!
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Re: britain loves turkey

Postby Nikiforos » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:42 am

lysi wrote:Turkey is the best pal of britain and the usa, they can do what they want and the british & american governments turn a blind eye.
At least we get a bit of support from russia.


Lysi, you are right on target!
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Re: britain loves turkey

Postby zan » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:06 pm

Nikiforos wrote:
lysi wrote:Turkey is the best pal of britain and the usa, they can do what they want and the british & american governments turn a blind eye.
At least we get a bit of support from russia.


Lysi, you are right on target!


Worrying isn't it????
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Postby Svetlana » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:40 am

<<Turkey is the best pal of britain and the usa..

I was in Istanbul early this year at a multi-national conference as part of a Cypriot Government party - and the US delegates were saying that when they were walking the streets, if asked their nationality, would say 'Canadian' rather than be identified as US citizens. So I am not certain than everyone identifies Turkey as being so close to the US. Remember the latter were denied air bases in Turkey during the second Iraq war; there is much anti-US sentiment in Turkey.

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Postby Sotos » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:53 am

I was in Istanbul early this year at a multi-national conference as part of a Cypriot Government party

A Cyprus government party in Istanbul???? :shock: :shock: How comes? We don't even have an embassy there!
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Postby Svetlana » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:14 am

Hi Sotos

Sorry, i did not mean 'party' as in the 'political party' sense, nor am I suggesting there were members of the Government present.

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Postby Sotos » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:24 pm

I didn't mean it like a "political party" either. But was this party organized by the Cyprus government in Istanbul?? Svetlana I think by mistake you told us something that should have remained a secret ;)
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Postby ONURLU_1925 » Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:18 am

Who is Oliver Rehn? Turkey is not a colony, Turkey is an independence country and this independence owned from Turkish people. Oliver Rehn's ideas didn't bond Turkey Rebuplic. Maybe today, the prime minister of Turkey doesn't see the truths, because he doesn't understand Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK ideas. But some day a leader, which has Mustafa Kemal's ideas, will come and imperialist countries' employees like Rehn won't say ridiculuos things.

manual quote from Sotos;
-" We don't even have an embassy there!"

Until you accept there is an independence TRNC on the island, you won't have any embassies in Turkey and you won't be in an party organizations in Turkey.
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Postby ONURLU_1925 » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:11 am

Please don't forget Mustafa Kemal Atatürk's youth defend Turkey and Turkey's valuable things (such TRNC).
Prime ministers, ministers etc. are temporary, Mustafa Kemal's youth with his ideas are permanent.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:24 am

ONURLU_1925 wrote:Who is Oliver Rehn? Turkey is not a colony, Turkey is an independence country and this independence owned from Turkish people. Oliver Rehn's ideas didn't bond Turkey Rebuplic. Maybe today, the prime minister of Turkey doesn't see the truths, because he doesn't understand Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK ideas. But some day a leader, which has Mustafa Kemal's ideas, will come and imperialist countries' employees like Rehn won't say ridiculuos things.

manual quote from Sotos;
-" We don't even have an embassy there!"

Until you accept there is an independence TRNC on the island, you won't have any embassies in Turkey and you won't be in an party organizations in Turkey.


My friend, I wonder which planet you are living on!
The choice of Turkey to become an EU member country is not a choice that was made by somebody else on behalf of Turkey, but a choice that was made by you -the Turkish people, your parliament and your government. As far as I know, EU membership is supported by the majority of the people in Turkey as well as by the army -the background ruling power. Now, if this is what you want, i.e. to become an EU member one day, then I am afraid you will have to dunce according to the tunes that Oli Rhen is playing, as well as the other EU officials and EU bodies, like we the Cypriots did for 10 years, before we were admitted.

On the other hand, if you want to stay for ever a hybrid country, swinging between Europe and your Ottoman past and follow the Kemalist “principles” by the "book" and by the "letter," then you better say it clearly so that the EU knows what it will have to do as well. In other words, you have to make up your mind as to what you want to become.

Now, perhaps I also have to add up this in my free advice to you -something which you should probably know already. If you abandon your EU accession road for whatever reasons -including your dislike of having to dance according to Oli Rehn's tunes, and stay as you currently are, you are a country that faces so many internal cultural, political, civil and economic problems and contradictions, that chances are in a few years you will face them all at once when they will mountain up, leading your country into a collapse from inside and possible splitting up. The only way it seems that can hold you together as a country and save you from falling apart, is your EU accession process and eventual EU membership in some 10-15 years.

Make up your mind and live aside the patriotic rhetoric and the illusions of grander that you maintain regarding your country!
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