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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby B25 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:58 pm

observer wrote:Dear Paphitis

I agree with you .... we all agree with you ....... TURKEY IS NOT JOINING THE EU. Sorry to shout, but you seem to have some difficulty hearing.

I don't think I can say this any simpler.

A. 1974 to 2004. Turkey did not join the EU.
B. 2004. RoC joined the EU.
C. 2004 to 2014. Turkey did not join the EU.

The difference between A and B is .......................?
Have you noticed any other difference?

If you cannot see the difference then no obe dan really help you.

1974 - 2004 Turkey had strong hopes to join the club. In fact she was drooling.
2004 Cyprus joins, turkey is fucked, her ambitions buggered by the RoC membership.
Post 2004 Turkey is still crying like a little bitch because she wants in and RoC says FO.

If you guys don't see this, i feel for you. But then again only carpet baggers and Turks wish to believe that the EU has not helped RoC.
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby Maximus » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:03 pm

B25 wrote:
observer wrote:Dear Paphitis

I agree with you .... we all agree with you ....... TURKEY IS NOT JOINING THE EU. Sorry to shout, but you seem to have some difficulty hearing.

I don't think I can say this any simpler.

A. 1974 to 2004. Turkey did not join the EU.
B. 2004. RoC joined the EU.
C. 2004 to 2014. Turkey did not join the EU.

The difference between A and B is .......................?
Have you noticed any other difference?

If you cannot see the difference then no obe dan really help you.

1974 - 2004 Turkey had strong hopes to join the club. In fact she was drooling.
2004 Cyprus joins, turkey is fucked, her ambitions buggered by the RoC membership.
Post 2004 Turkey is still crying like a little bitch because she wants in and RoC says FO.

If you guys don't see this, i feel for you. But then again only carpet baggers and Turks wish to believe that the EU has not helped RoC.


You know, both of you, Paphitis included, are right in my opinion
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby Sophia1 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:45 am

Yes but unfortunately again we were forced to wear the ball & chain as we were promised that it would help solve the "Cyprus problem" We were cheated yet again guys, all because again we chose the wrong people to trust. It so happened to be the same ones that F***ed us right up in the first round.... Oh well we will soldier on as we Greeks do!

They can push us down but we will always get back up again, brush the dirt off and carry on!!

I am still and forever will be a proud Greek

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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:05 am

Sophia1 wrote:Oh well we will soldier on as we Greeks do!

Just speak for yourself woman but don’t lump us all into your bastardized ethnicity.
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:36 am

As a proud CYPRIOT, I fully support our entry into the EU. The financial mess in Cyprus was created wholly by greed , self interests and gross incompetence. At least now we have a powerful EU presence that will not tolerate misappropriation of funds, fat commissions and irresponsible lending that have been going on for years.It is time to accept that nepotism, mesa, koumparos/ koumera must be laid to rest. The EU have imposed stringent controls and we have to accept that its for the benefit of the people and not just for the elite few greedy bastards.

We have to rebuild confidence in our banking system, clearly we are incapable of doing so without external directives.

Our economy will recover, personally I would never trust a fat pig again after the severe haircut suffered by so many people who have seen their savings dissipated.
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby Mustiejodu » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:58 am

Your on the money militiadis.
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:14 pm

miltiades wrote:As a proud CYPRIOT, I fully support our entry into the EU. The financial mess in Cyprus was created wholly by greed , self interests and gross incompetence. At least now we have a powerful EU presence that will not tolerate misappropriation of funds, fat commissions and irresponsible lending that have been going on for years.It is time to accept that nepotism, mesa, koumparos/ koumera must be laid to rest. The EU have imposed stringent controls and we have to accept that its for the benefit of the people and not just for the elite few greedy bastards.

We have to rebuild confidence in our banking system, clearly we are incapable of doing so without external directives.

Our economy will recover, personally I would never trust a fat pig again after the severe haircut suffered by so many people who have seen their savings dissipated.


You're joking right?
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:28 pm

Joking about what ?
You don't by any chance think that our economic mess was due to our EU membership, do you?
Some 4 years ago I visited a cousin of mine in Limassol at his plush office.
A very wealthy, on paper, man who married into a well known wealthy family. He was in the process of buying a hotel
which had closed down earlier. He rung his bank manager and asked for 2 million, today he said I want it in my account!!!

He got the money before even signing a loan agreement!! This is nepotism at its extreme.
We are in the mess we are in because "my koumparos" will see that I get what I want!!
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:35 pm

miltiades wrote:Joking about what ?
You don't by any chance think that our economic mess was due to our EU membership, do you?
Some 4 years ago I visited a cousin of mine in Limassol at his plush office.
A very wealthy, on paper, man who married into a well known wealthy family. He was in the process of buying a hotel
which had closed down earlier. He rung his bank manager and asked for 2 million, today he said I want it in my account!!!

He got the money before even signing a loan agreement!! This is nepotism at its extreme.
We are in the mess we are in because "my koumparos" will see that I get what I want!!


I don't believe the EU will resolve anything you mention above.

Also, let's not overstate the corruption or koumbarolikia. This did not result in the financial crisis at all!
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Re: Was it a mistake to join the eu?

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:54 pm

Paphitis, the collapse was entire due to corruption and greed. Mismanagement and heavy involvement in lending to Greek businesses as well as buying their junk bonds that every other nation was discarding.

The EU provided and still does a stop to malpractices in the financial world.
To have continued on the destructive course would have meant the nation going bust.
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