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Re: The truth about what's happing in Ukraine.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:58 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Well it looks like Ukraine is fighting back and the Russians don't know what to do! :lol:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougschoen/ ... ggression/

Looks like Russia is going to be defeeated! :D


I never took you for a fool ................ until now!

The Russians are up against the US and its Allies who, if you go back a few months, without doubt they are the ones that instigated all this. The proof is overwhelming ......... that is if you don’t base your opinion on the Western Press and statements from Western leaders.

The US financed those opposing the elected government, allowed the genuine protestors to be overridden by Svoboda/Right Sector extremists both with National Socialist (NAZI) agenda’s and to overthrow the government in an armed coup. The US, contrary to UN Protocols, recognised this illegal government that they had installed, within hours, again against international law. This bunch of thugs within 24 hours announced that Crimea would lose its autonomy, the Russian base at Sevastopol agreement would be cancelled and they then set about closing down all Russian language radio and TV stations and news papers. The self appointed government put into power in the eastern regions, their US approved Oligarchs to rule these eastern principal regions/cities ............................ and in all that time not a single condemnation from the US! :roll:

At the request of the Russian majority the Russians bent the rules and used their military peacefully to successfully thwart aggression against the Russian majority in Crimea. The population made a free and fair decision (confirmed by EU observers) to hold a democratic referendum, and some 97% 0f the 83% that voted made a self determined decision that they wished their ties to be with the Russian Federation. It was only then that pratt’s like Kerry, Obama, Cameron, Hague and Hollande etc. decided to express their ‘horror’ and jacked up the propaganda .................... which the sheeple swallow hook-line-and-sinker because they are too stupid to read up the facts, they just believe the western mouth pieces.

Strange how when it was the US backed right wing extremists Svoboda/Right Sector taking over government buildings in Kiev, killing people and using an armed revolt to impose a coup d’etat...... as far as the US was concerned that was fine. But, when the people of eastern Ukraine rise up to thwart these right wing thugs ........ the US calls them terrorists and threatens the Russians. :shock:

Unless this situation is calmed down, which is what I see the Russians trying to do, this is going to end in a conflict of such proportions that are NO WINNERS! The full blame for this sits squarely on the shoulders of the US Administration ............ the Russians, through Lavrov have proved themselves to be the peace makers it is the US and its puppets that are war mongers!

The following sums it up .......... I'm confused, can anyone help me? By Neil Clarke

I'm confused. A few weeks ago we were told in the West that people occupying government buildings in Ukraine was a very good thing. These people, we were told by our political leaders and elite media commentators, were 'pro-democracy protestors'.
The US government warned the Ukrainian authorities against using force against these 'pro-democracy protestors' even if, according to the pictures we saw, some of them were neo-Nazis who were throwing Molotov cocktails and other things at the police and smashing up statues and setting fire to buildings.
Now, just a few weeks later, we're told that people occupying government buildings in Ukraine are not 'pro-democracy protestors' but 'terrorists' or 'militants'.


http://rt.com/op-edge/west-leaders-ukraine-democracy-600/


Robin Hood,

those occupying the buildings are separatist militias and there is some evidence that suggests they are Russian Regulars.

The Ukraine has the right to defend its territorial integrity from these separatists or Russian Military whichever the case may be.

What is so unreasonable about this?

Secondly, the elected Government had an agenda of dismantling the Ukraine so there is no surprise that there was a Coup. They DO NOT have any right to dismantle or partition the country and as such their actions were criminal and treacherous! Since when is that LEGAL?
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Re: The truth about what's happing in Ukraine.

Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:33 pm

Ukrainian Soldiers Caught Planting Car Bombs in Donbass. Guess Who Trained Them?

March 15, 2017 at 3:52am

Of course. Who else?

The "mystery" behind the long list of assassinated rebel leaders in Donbass might now be solved.

Two Ukrainian soldiers have been captured with weapons and bomb-making materials by Lugansk authorities.

The two soldiers, both allegedly part of Ukraine's Special Forces, confessed to assassinating the rebel commander Oleg Anashchenko last month.

Guess who trained them? You already know.

Watch:

A (very) incomplete list of prominent rebel leaders who have been assassinated:

May 23, 2015: Luhansk rebel leader Aleksey Mozgovoy is assassinated in East Ukraine (his car was ambushed).
October 16, 2016: Donetsk rebel leader Arsen Pavlov, aka "Motorola", is assassinated by a bomb.
February 8, 2017: Donetsk rebel leader Mikhail Tolstykh, aka "Givi", is assassinated by some sort of explosive projectile or bomb.

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/ukrain ... -guess-who

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Re: The truth about what's happing in Ukraine.

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:07 pm

In a recent exchange in another thread you can see that in spite of all the evidence, there are still those that will condemn Russia and refuse to acknowledge the US inspired and supported coup that gave rise to this unelected and extreme right wing Ukraine 'Government' seeing them as the good guys. :x :(

Reading through the thread again it seems that those that questioned the legality of events in Ukraine in 2014 were right ..... yet again. Pity Paphitis is now absent from the Forum. :roll:
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Re: The truth about what's happing in Ukraine.

Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:15 am

500 "Islamist radicals" arrive in Mariupol - DPR intelligence

April 8, 2017 - Fort Russ News -
RN - translated by J. Arnoldski -

According to the intelligence of the Donetsk People’s Republic, an “Islamist battalion” numbering up to 500 men has arrived in Ukraine’s Mariupol. This was announced today by the deputy commander of the DPR, Eduard Basurin.

“We’ve identified the arrival in Mariupol of an Islamist battalion of up to 500 people which will operate in the operations zone of the 36th marines brigade. The battalion is stationed on Bakhchivandzhi Street. The battalion’s advisor is a company commander of Ukraine’s national guard, Major Karpenko,” Basurin reported.

According to him, the unit’s tasks include guarding artillery stockpiles and taking control of the Mariupol port. As Basurin reported, the Mariupol port itself has become a hub for illegal weapons trading, including chemical weapons and ammunitions with Middle Eastern countries.

Media reports have repeatedly revealed the presence of Islamist radicals serving in Ukrainian army units. A number of video shots from the “Anti-Terrorist Operation Zone” have even shown the use of ISIS insignia.


“To the Asker Battalion are now flocking people with combat experience from fighting against government troops in Syria and close to the entourage of Mejlis leaders - Turkish nationalists or ISIS veterans,” Crimean Vice Prime Minister Ruslan Balbet noted back in 2016.

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