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[Flying Horse]

The BBC reporter at lunchtime said experts were getting less excited over debris washed up on shore around Perth today.

So, basically it's all a crock of doo daa.

Must have ridden some choppy seas to find it's way over 1000 miles to land

[Oceanside50]

how credible is this?...does anyone know?

[Pyrpolizer]

how credible is this?...does anyone know?

We 've seen that video a long time ago Oceanside. Paphitis said Flight Radar 24 is unreliable.
The fact is those appearing and disappearing sort of "escorting" planes and others flying at supersonic speeds are nothing but video delays and catch-ups.
Another fact is that flight Radar 24 showed MH370 continuing it's route and ending up somewhere in Vietnam(?)
Then they deleted it all. They even deleted the MH370 original path of 8 March.
Someone to be credible must provide proof and sustain it. Flightradar24 did not. They even have their own web site where people were discussing this issue plus other issues of MH370.

[Pyrpolizer]

Haven't they found some rivet-damaged bits of metal that they are keeping a dignified low-key approach to, at the moment?

Yes some wash ups at the beach of Augusta. Officials said "The more we look at it, the less excited we get".
By the description of it be it a sheet of metal attached with rivets on another sheet of fiberglass I would say that's a very cheapy construction to be used on such a multimillion $ aircraft.

[Paphitis]

CNN choosing the slow method of preparing the public for the real thing.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v ... n.cnn.html

at 2.50 sec of video timeline:

Quote:

"Perhaps an indication that the aircraft landed in a controlled way"

They were very clear and said that MH370 could have made a controlled landing (ditching) into the ocean and they even mentioned US Airways 1549 in the Hudson!

They did not even hint that the aircraft may have actually landed!

[Paphitis]

The BBC reporter at lunchtime said experts were getting less excited over debris washed up on shore around Perth today.

So, basically it's all a crock of doo daa.

Must have ridden some choppy seas to find it's way over 1000 miles to land

That's not what they said! One person said they are less and less excited when looking at the photos over and over.

The debris is with the Air Transport Safety Authority for analysis. Photos have also been sent to the International Investigation Team.

They have not yet verified whether this debris is connected to MH370 or not. The only experts that can make that decision are engineers from Boeing.

That is where it is at the moment.

[Paphitis]

Debris found on beach confirmed not to be related to MH370 as expected.

Chances are some debris may get washed up in Africa and spotted by someone who will not think anything of it. They will probably take it and use it as roofing for their shanty dwellings!

[Kikapu]

It was reported yesterday in the news that the B-777 has 4 separate emergency signal devices in case of a crash that would be picked up by the satellites. Perhaps something like EPIRPs I talked about earlier that sailboats carry. One in the cockpit, one in the fuselage (did not say where) and one in each of the 2main doors, where the slide can be used as a raft. I'm sure they meant that the device is in the deflated raft that is in the door of the plane. These devices will send signals automatically of its location when they come in contact with water, or set off manually. If the plane crashed into the ocean and broke up but parts where the devices are stayed afloat, there would be signals sent to the satellites giving its EXACT position. No such signals have been picked up.

[Paphitis]

It was reported yesterday in the news that the B-777 has 4 separate emergency signal devices in case of a crash that would be picked up by the satellites. Perhaps something like EPIRPs I talked about earlier that sailboats carry. One in the cockpit, one in the fuselage (did not say where) and one in each of the 2main doors, where the slide can be used as a raft. I'm sure they meant that the device is in the deflated raft that is in the door of the plane. These devices will send signals automatically of its location when they come in contact with water, or set off manually. If the plane crashed into the ocean and broke up but parts where the devices are stayed afloat, there would be signals sent to the satellites giving its EXACT position. No such signals have been picked up.

They are investigating the possibility that the aircraft did not break apart at all. Just like US Airways 1549.

The devices are Emergency Locator Transmitters. They are exactly the same as what is on the Black Box.

These devices are not mandatory and it will be up to the Investigators to see whether these were maintained. The one in the cockpit would not have been activated at all. The Emergency Slide ones do not activate unless the Emergency Slide is deployed or need to be manually turned on as you leave the aircraft.

On the other hand, it could be that some did activate, hence the 4 detentions.

Also important to note that only one of the detentions has been searched for within a 10 mile radius of where it was detected. The other 3 will be searched for in a similar fashion with the weaker ones having a far greater radius. The circles will overlap but there is a lot of ocean floor they need to survey still.

[Kikapu]

It was reported yesterday in the news that the B-777 has 4 separate emergency signal devices in case of a crash that would be picked up by the satellites. Perhaps something like EPIRPs I talked about earlier that sailboats carry. One in the cockpit, one in the fuselage (did not say where) and one in each of the 2main doors, where the slide can be used as a raft. I'm sure they meant that the device is in the deflated raft that is in the door of the plane. These devices will send signals automatically of its location when they come in contact with water, or set off manually. If the plane crashed into the ocean and broke up but parts where the devices are stayed afloat, there would be signals sent to the satellites giving its EXACT position. No such signals have been picked up.

They are investigating the possibility that the aircraft did not break apart at all. Just like US Airways 1549.

The devices are Emergency Locator Transmitters. They are exactly the same as what is on the Black Box.

These devices are not mandatory and it will be up to the Investigators to see whether these were maintained. The one in the cockpit would not have been activated at all. The Emergency Slide ones do not activate unless the Emergency Slide is deployed or need to be manually turned on as you leave the aircraft.

On the other hand, it could be that some did activate, hence the 4 detentions.

Also important to note that only one of the detentions has been searched for within a 10 mile radius of where it was detected. The other 3 will be searched for in a similar fashion with the weaker ones having a far greater radius. The circles will overlap but there is a lot of ocean floor they need to survey still.

I don't think they were talking about the same devices as you are, since the devices they were referring to involves sending signals to satellites giving their locations just as EPIRP would do. Black Box signals does not involve satellites, does it?

I don't think they know what they are talking about anymore. So far all their assumptions have been wrong, therefore the aircraft sinking without breaking up is just one more assumption on their part. If the aircraft did not break up on impact with the water, then no one tried to leave the aircraft but just sunk to the bottom of the ocean. Really? People should stop making comparison to the Hudson River incident to the MH370. Sounds more and more people are trying to make excuses as to why they have been wrong so far from day one. They keep coming up with more and more unlikely scenarios.