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[Paphitis]

It was reported yesterday in the news that the B-777 has 4 separate emergency signal devices in case of a crash that would be picked up by the satellites. Perhaps something like EPIRPs I talked about earlier that sailboats carry. One in the cockpit, one in the fuselage (did not say where) and one in each of the 2main doors, where the slide can be used as a raft. I'm sure they meant that the device is in the deflated raft that is in the door of the plane. These devices will send signals automatically of its location when they come in contact with water, or set off manually. If the plane crashed into the ocean and broke up but parts where the devices are stayed afloat, there would be signals sent to the satellites giving its EXACT position. No such signals have been picked up.

They are investigating the possibility that the aircraft did not break apart at all. Just like US Airways 1549.

The devices are Emergency Locator Transmitters. They are exactly the same as what is on the Black Box.

These devices are not mandatory and it will be up to the Investigators to see whether these were maintained. The one in the cockpit would not have been activated at all. The Emergency Slide ones do not activate unless the Emergency Slide is deployed or need to be manually turned on as you leave the aircraft.

On the other hand, it could be that some did activate, hence the 4 detentions.

Also important to note that only one of the detentions has been searched for within a 10 mile radius of where it was detected. The other 3 will be searched for in a similar fashion with the weaker ones having a far greater radius. The circles will overlap but there is a lot of ocean floor they need to survey still.

I don't think they were talking about the same devices as you are, since the devices they were referring to involves sending signals to satellites giving their locations just as EPIRP would do. Black Box signals does not involve satellites, does it?

I don't think they know what they are talking about anymore. So far all their assumptions have been wrong, therefore the aircraft sinking without breaking up is just one more assumption on their part. If the aircraft did not break up on impact with the water, then no one tried to leave the aircraft but just sunk to the bottom of the ocean. Really? People should stop making comparison to the Hudson River incident to the MH370. Sounds more and more people are trying to make excuses as to why they have been wrong so far from day one. They keep coming up with more and more unlikely scenarios.

Essentially EPIRBs and ELTs are the same.

They can also be picked up by the COSPAS-SARSAT network if they are on the surface. Not possible if they are 4500m underwater. You would need a Sonar for that!

If MH370 crashed on land, then SARSAT will know where it is.

Once again, there are no assumptions, just "most probable causes"

The rest such as the most likely point of entry and the detections are all based on science.

They know the aircraft crashed in the Indian Ocean. Scientific evidence has determined that!

When they lack the physical evidence such as debris, they analyse whether it is possible for the aircraft to ditch completely intact. The answer to that is YES it is possible. This would have been thought about from the very beginning.

[Pyrpolizer]

CNN choosing the slow method of preparing the public for the real thing.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v ... n.cnn.html

at 2.50 sec of video timeline:

Quote:

"Perhaps an indication that the aircraft landed in a controlled way"

They were very clear and said that MH370 could have made a controlled landing (ditching) into the ocean and they even mentioned US Airways 1549 in the Hudson!

They did not even hint that the aircraft may have actually landed!

Yep. that's why it's called the 'slow method".No emergency signals to satellites because it landed smoothly.... in water. Next step will be no emergency signals to satellites because it landed smoothly over land

[Pyrpolizer]

It was reported yesterday in the news that the B-777 has 4 separate emergency signal devices in case of a crash that would be picked up by the satellites. Perhaps something like EPIRPs I talked about earlier that sailboats carry. One in the cockpit, one in the fuselage (did not say where) and one in each of the 2main doors, where the slide can be used as a raft. I'm sure they meant that the device is in the deflated raft that is in the door of the plane. These devices will send signals automatically of its location when they come in contact with water, or set off manually. If the plane crashed into the ocean and broke up but parts where the devices are stayed afloat, there would be signals sent to the satellites giving its EXACT position. No such signals have been picked up.

They are investigating the possibility that the aircraft did not break apart at all. Just like US Airways 1549.

The devices are Emergency Locator Transmitters. They are exactly the same as what is on the Black Box.

These devices are not mandatory and it will be up to the Investigators to see whether these were maintained. The one in the cockpit would not have been activated at all. The Emergency Slide ones do not activate unless the Emergency Slide is deployed or need to be manually turned on as you leave the aircraft.

On the other hand, it could be that some did activate, hence the 4 detentions.

Also important to note that only one of the detentions has been searched for within a 10 mile radius of where it was detected. The other 3 will be searched for in a similar fashion with the weaker ones having a far greater radius. The circles will overlap but there is a lot of ocean floor they need to survey still.

I don't think they were talking about the same devices as you are, since the devices they were referring to involves sending signals to satellites giving their locations just as EPIRP would do. Black Box signals does not involve satellites, does it?

I don't think they know what they are talking about anymore. So far all their assumptions have been wrong, therefore the aircraft sinking without breaking up is just one more assumption on their part. If the aircraft did not break up on impact with the water, then no one tried to leave the aircraft but just sunk to the bottom of the ocean. Really? People should stop making comparison to the Hudson River incident to the MH370. Sounds more and more people are trying to make excuses as to why they have been wrong so far from day one. They keep coming up with more and more unlikely scenarios.

Essentially EPIRBs and ELTs are the same.

They can also be picked up by the COSPAS-SARSAT network if they are on the surface. Not possible if they are 4500m underwater. You would need a Sonar for that!

If MH370 crashed on land, then SARSAT will know where it is.

Once again, there are no assumptions, just "most probable causes"

The rest such as the most likely point of entry and the detections are all based on science.

They know the aircraft crashed in the Indian Ocean. Scientific evidence has determined that!

When they lack the physical evidence such as debris, they analyse whether it is possible for the aircraft to ditch completely intact. The answer to that is YES it is possible. This would have been thought about from the very beginning.

The only scientific evidence are the 7 handshakes proving that it traveled for 6+ hours before the Engines stopped.
The rest is based on assumptions, that already proved to be wrong.

[Paphitis]

It was reported yesterday in the news that the B-777 has 4 separate emergency signal devices in case of a crash that would be picked up by the satellites. Perhaps something like EPIRPs I talked about earlier that sailboats carry. One in the cockpit, one in the fuselage (did not say where) and one in each of the 2main doors, where the slide can be used as a raft. I'm sure they meant that the device is in the deflated raft that is in the door of the plane. These devices will send signals automatically of its location when they come in contact with water, or set off manually. If the plane crashed into the ocean and broke up but parts where the devices are stayed afloat, there would be signals sent to the satellites giving its EXACT position. No such signals have been picked up.

They are investigating the possibility that the aircraft did not break apart at all. Just like US Airways 1549.

The devices are Emergency Locator Transmitters. They are exactly the same as what is on the Black Box.

These devices are not mandatory and it will be up to the Investigators to see whether these were maintained. The one in the cockpit would not have been activated at all. The Emergency Slide ones do not activate unless the Emergency Slide is deployed or need to be manually turned on as you leave the aircraft.

On the other hand, it could be that some did activate, hence the 4 detentions.

Also important to note that only one of the detentions has been searched for within a 10 mile radius of where it was detected. The other 3 will be searched for in a similar fashion with the weaker ones having a far greater radius. The circles will overlap but there is a lot of ocean floor they need to survey still.

I don't think they were talking about the same devices as you are, since the devices they were referring to involves sending signals to satellites giving their locations just as EPIRP would do. Black Box signals does not involve satellites, does it?

I don't think they know what they are talking about anymore. So far all their assumptions have been wrong, therefore the aircraft sinking without breaking up is just one more assumption on their part. If the aircraft did not break up on impact with the water, then no one tried to leave the aircraft but just sunk to the bottom of the ocean. Really? People should stop making comparison to the Hudson River incident to the MH370. Sounds more and more people are trying to make excuses as to why they have been wrong so far from day one. They keep coming up with more and more unlikely scenarios.

Essentially EPIRBs and ELTs are the same.

They can also be picked up by the COSPAS-SARSAT network if they are on the surface. Not possible if they are 4500m underwater. You would need a Sonar for that!

If MH370 crashed on land, then SARSAT will know where it is.

Once again, there are no assumptions, just "most probable causes"

The rest such as the most likely point of entry and the detections are all based on science.

They know the aircraft crashed in the Indian Ocean. Scientific evidence has determined that!

When they lack the physical evidence such as debris, they analyse whether it is possible for the aircraft to ditch completely intact. The answer to that is YES it is possible. This would have been thought about from the very beginning.

The only scientific evidence are the 7 handshakes proving that it traveled for 6+ hours before the Engines stopped.
The rest is based on assumptions, that already proved to be wrong.

Nothing has been proven wrong and there have been no assumptions at all. Crash Investigation probable causes are not assumptions but a complete shopping list of possible and probable causes in the absence of hard evidence. There would be many scenarios not ruled out. However, a safe landing in a third country or being shot down have been ruled out because they are not at all probable or even possible!

Everything is worked out scientifically.

[Pyrpolizer]

Show me the scientific evidence that the plane crashed.
Show me the scientific evidence that the plane ended up in the Indian Ocean.

There is no such evidence let aside scientific one.
The inmarsat calculations are not exact science. And not only that the calculations themselves are questionable.

[Paphitis]

Show me the scientific evidence that the plane crashed.
Show me the scientific evidence that the plane ended up in the Indian Ocean.

There is no such evidence let aside scientific one.
The inmarsat calculations are not exact science. And not only that the calculations themselves are questionable.

There is a lot of evidence and you do not have any rights to see it at this point. You will however have access to a full report when the regulator sees fit.

You however have come up with all kinds of fairy tales and to top it all off you don't have any ounce of evidence but just cries of could play because that is what turns you on for some strange reason. Tell me, what evidence do you have that MH370 was shot down or landed safely in another country?

If MH370 was in another country we would know about it or gear from those responsible. The US would probably also bombing the area desert storm style. They won't need an invitation.

[Pyrpolizer]

Show me the scientific evidence that the plane crashed.
Show me the scientific evidence that the plane ended up in the Indian Ocean.

There is no such evidence let aside scientific one.
The inmarsat calculations are not exact science. And not only that the calculations themselves are questionable.

There is a lot of evidence and you do not have any rights to see it at this point. You will however have access to a full report when the regulator sees fit.

You however have come up with all kinds of fairy tales and to top it all off you don't have any ounce of evidence but just cries of could play because that is what turns you on for some strange reason. Tell me, what evidence do you have that MH370 was shot down or landed safely in another country?

If MH370 was in another country we would know about it or gear from those responsible. The US would probably also bombing the area desert storm style. They won't need an invitation.

And YOU DO?


I like to explore ALL possibilities. Do you have a problem with that? Unlike you who claims to have evidence hiding behind the skirts of your officials I never claimed to have any evidence.

[Paphitis]

Show me the scientific evidence that the plane crashed.
Show me the scientific evidence that the plane ended up in the Indian Ocean.

There is no such evidence let aside scientific one.
The inmarsat calculations are not exact science. And not only that the calculations themselves are questionable.

There is a lot of evidence and you do not have any rights to see it at this point. You will however have access to a full report when the regulator sees fit.

You however have come up with all kinds of fairy tales and to top it all off you don't have any ounce of evidence but just cries of could play because that is what turns you on for some strange reason. Tell me, what evidence do you have that MH370 was shot down or landed safely in another country?

If MH370 was in another country we would know about it or gear from those responsible. The US would probably also bombing the area desert storm style. They won't need an invitation.

And YOU DO?

I know how the system works and have full confidence in all the main players from the Malaysian Government, Boeing, Inmarsat, AMSA, Regulatory Agencies, JACC, IIT, ATSB and their will to get to the bottom of this.

It is you that is challenging the good intentions of all those involved and therefore it is you that needs to divulge any evidence to back up your ridiculous assertions!

So let's here it!

[Pyrpolizer]

I already have. Where are the black boxes again?
There should be 4 of them.

[Paphitis]

I already have. Where are the black boxes again?
There should be 4 of them.

As I thought! You have no substance!

It took 2 years to find AF447.