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You cannot get rid of the 2 states, its a red line for TCs
There can't be two states when one of the two are illegal..Not even the Roc government has the right to sign off on others right of property
Property rights and BBF are two different issues, you sound confused or stupid
You half wit you can't build a BBF where there's no land that tc's own.....

you havent got a clue, give up its just beyond you.

the only viable and just solution for everyone is for all to go back to their respective villages gc and tc.....trying to build a state on stolen lands is impossible while in the EU. A turkish charade of this magnitude could only be pulled off in the heart of anatolia.

My mothers home has been erased, where is she to go? please get serious how old are you 10?

what are you talking about man?....

My mothers family comes from the South, how can my mother go back to her village when her house has been demolished? please try and be logical.

[Oceanside50]

then the ROC would have to rebuild your moms house...whats the big deal?

[boulio]

your asking thru eroglu two countries,two peoples two sovergnties under a confederal umbrella,

This is rubbish, just look what we have signed up (joint declaration) one country made up of 2 states under a federal umbrella with political equalityof the 2 states.

The UN never meant political equality in the sence of double majorities but.......

Since you love stressing political equality between the states,then this is my suggestion for guranterors in a future BBF solution:

In order for any country to intervene in cyprus there must be a vote with a two thirds majority from both "states"

Deal?

How will that work, if you are beating the shit out of me? you will not vote for intervention, please get real, thought you were cleverer than that.

But cyprus will be in the EU and demilitarized ,how will I be " beating you up"

You see I am clever than you.

deal?

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your asking thru eroglu two countries,two peoples two sovergnties under a confederal umbrella,

This is rubbish, just look what we have signed up (joint declaration) one country made up of 2 states under a federal umbrella with political equalityof the 2 states.

The UN never meant political equality in the sence of double majorities but.......

Since you love stressing political equality between the states,then this is my suggestion for guranterors in a future BBF solution:

In order for any country to intervene in cyprus there must be a vote with a two thirds majority from both "states"

Deal?

How will that work, if you are beating the shit out of me? you will not vote for intervention, please get real, thought you were cleverer than that.

But cyprus will be in the EU and demilitarized ,how will I be " beating you up"

You see I am clever than you.

deal?

You cant leave things ot chance, its just take a few extrenists planting bombs, creating mayhem, killing people and hew presto you have an internal war...you have to understand neither side trusts the other with their security.

[Viewpoint]

then the ROC would have to rebuild your moms house...whats the big deal?

Ho thats real clever, you are financially bankrupt but lets humour you and say the "RoC" built her a new home, shes 80 and doesnt want to move back shes has all her friends and family in the North now. You have to be realistic, you are 10 arent you?

[boulio]

This is rubbish, just look what we have signed up (joint declaration) one country made up of 2 states under a federal umbrella with political equalityof the 2 states.[/quote]

The UN never meant political equality in the sence of double majorities but.......

Since you love stressing political equality between the states,then this is my suggestion for guranterors in a future BBF solution:

In order for any country to intervene in cyprus there must be a vote with a two thirds majority from both "states"

Deal?[/quote]

How will that work, if you are beating the shit out of me? you will not vote for intervention, please get real, thought you were cleverer than that.[/quote]


But cyprus will be in the EU and demilitarized ,how will I be " beating you up"

You see I am clever than you.

deal?[/quote]

You cant leave things ot chance, its just take a few extrenists planting bombs, creating mayhem, killing people and hew presto you have an internal war...you have to understand neither side trusts the other with their security.[/quote]

I think the police force can handle things ,we don't need foreign armies.only if like Syria attacks and we need external intervention you would need a 66% yes vote for intervention by both communities?political equality right?

Deal?

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Do you trust our poliçe force? I dont trust yours to do the right thing, the attack on Talat was just a little glimse of what can happen. No thanks.

Your manipulating political equality for bad, if you are kicking the shit out of me, its very unlikely you will vote for someone to come kick your butt will you?

[boulio]

Police will be stationed in each state and there will also be a federal police force,more than enough. talat incident the police chief fired.what ever whith the murders os Isaac and Solomon?how I'm i going to kick the shit out of you?that police can't handle.

Look if you want political equality it has to be everything not pick and choose now answer please.

deal?

[Oceanside50]

then the ROC would have to rebuild your moms house...whats the big deal?

Ho thats real clever, you are financially bankrupt but lets humour you and say the "RoC" built her a new home, shes 80 and doesnt want to move back shes has all her friends and family in the North now. You have to be realistic, you are 10 arent you?

All of Cyprus has suffered from the past and the present situation, I've always said that, Vp, and numerous times I've stood up for the Tc but you can't base a Republic on more human right violations. Property rights are equal to the freedoms of religion and freedo of speech. You can't forbid an ethnic groups freedom of speech just like you can't forbid an ethnic groups right of property. The pseudo states administration wants to usurp all of these rights away from the GC, get it through your thick cypriot head, man!!

[Viewpoint]

then the ROC would have to rebuild your moms house...whats the big deal?

Ho thats real clever, you are financially bankrupt but lets humour you and say the "RoC" built her a new home, shes 80 and doesnt want to move back shes has all her friends and family in the North now. You have to be realistic, you are 10 arent you?

All of Cyprus has suffered from the past and the present situation, I've always said that, Vp, and numerous times I've stood up for the Tc but you can't base a Republic on more human right violations. Property rights are equal to the freedoms of religion and freedo of speech. You can't forbid an ethnic groups freedom of speech just like you can't forbid an ethnic groups right of property. The pseudo states administration wants to usurp all of these rights away from the GC, get it through your thick cypriot head, man!!

Look the majority of TCs support the return of property rights but your ideology that everyone should go back is ridiculous, the majority of people will get the right to their old properties whereby they get rent or the current occupiers are given a time frame to vacate, but some will have to accept compensation and some alternative available land options. You really need to understand that we are not trying to usurp anything, division occured and everyone is trying to make the best of things, its not only GC properties that should concern you we have lost land in the south, the ironic things is that you claim to be more advanced than us yet we cannot get our rights back without residing in the south for 6 months but you have access to a property commission to get compensation or restitution. Now before you get all hot and bothered I do not support the return of property rights for TCs in the south as I feel many TCs will double dip which I am 101% against. My head maybe Cypriot (Turkish) but it aint thick, dont listen to what your people drum into you the majority of people living in GC property were told to move out in 6 months believe me they would, you have to understand this, now how long will it take you to build my mothers house so that we can sell it, no one from my mothers side who come from the south want to go back, 40 years of peaceful living in the north is enough time to make them forget the south, plus they have nothing to go back to, homes demolished fertile land unused.