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[Paphitis]

I got an extended squiz at CNN recently as the MH370 saga was unfolding.

Due to my disappointment in the way this crash has been covered by the majority of news outlets, I scanned over to CNN, and from then on I was glued to it because I found that their coverage was just superior to anyone else.

Very accurate, informative and educational. They had aviation experts, crash investigators, undersea marine experts, airline pilots, homeland security FBI analysts on their panels all of which contributed flawless information. I had learned a few things from CNN which was great. I have never seen an news outlet quite like CNN.

Obviously they may have a big budget but this service is by far superior to anything I came across in Europe, Asia or Australia.

Because I have a bit of knowledge about aviation, the nonsense is immediately apparent to me as opposed to the average Layman. I found hardly any nonsense, in fact, thinking back I can accurately say that there was nothing I saw or read on CNN which I could honestly fault in any way (HALLELUYAH!).

If CNN apply these standards to all their news stories then CNN is the news outlet of choice for me. Clearly, this is what journalism is all about and they are the benchmark as far as I am concerned.

Their journalists are terrific and professional. Richard Quest stood out for me. Great job! Certainly a breath of fresh air.

http://edition.cnn.com/

Anyone got any news outlets which they think are equally as good or better?

[Get Real!]

You don’t need experts to tell you that the plane is lying at the bottom of the ocean somewhere and that none of the civil aviation radars are/were capable of tracking it down.

The quality radars are military radars but they’re tuned to other regions; if a needle drops in the ME they’ll tell you where it dropped and who owned it!

More than anything, this debacle has exposed the obsolete civil aviation radar systems in the region and beyond and how most of the world’s tax dollars are being invested in military radar systems while fuck-all goes into civil aviation systems.

[Paphitis]

You don’t need experts to tell you that the plane is lying at the bottom of the ocean somewhere and that none of the civil aviation radars are/were capable of tracking it down.

The quality radars are military radars but they’re tuned to other regions; if a needle drops in the ME they’ll tell you where it dropped and who owned it!

EXACTLY!

But try telling that to Kikapu and Pyro!

It was bloody obvious to me that MH370 couldn't possibly go along the Northern Corridor.

But back to CNN, I thought it was excellent coverage and very detailed. They covered everything off very nicely without the need to exaggerate, distort or use hyperbole.

More than anything, this debacle has exposed the obsolete civil aviation radar systems in the region and beyond and how most of the world’s tax dollars are being invested in military radar systems while fuck-all goes into civil aviation systems.

Secondary Surveillance Radar is state of the art. In fact Primary Radars are capable of detecting SSR Transponders and get a lot of information about aircraft in this way it is just that Primary radar is more capable of detecting flights that do not have Transponders On (military aircraft).

SSR Radars can also detect aircraft without a Transponder but there will be no altitude information etc.

[Pyrpolizer]

You don’t need experts to tell you that the plane is lying at the bottom of the ocean somewhere and that none of the civil aviation radars are/were capable of tracking it down.

The quality radars are military radars but they’re tuned to other regions; if a needle drops in the ME they’ll tell you where it dropped and who owned it!

EXACTLY!

But try telling that to Kikapu and Pyro!

It was bloody obvious to me that MH370 couldn't possibly go along the Northern Corridor.

But back to CNN, I thought it was excellent coverage and very detailed. They covered everything off very nicely without the need to exaggerate, distort or use hyperbole.

More than anything, this debacle has exposed the obsolete civil aviation radar systems in the region and beyond and how most of the world’s tax dollars are being invested in military radar systems while fuck-all goes into civil aviation systems.

Secondary Surveillance Radar is state of the art. In fact Primary Radars are capable of detecting SSR Transponders and get a lot of information about aircraft in this way it is just that Primary radar is more capable of detecting flights that do not have Transponders On (military aircraft).

SSR Radars can also detect aircraft without a Transponder but there will be no altitude information etc.

Basically people all of you have been taken for a ride.

Plus you all deserve it. I told you what I thought many weeks ago. I know exactly what their capabilities are.JORN is the most advance radar system in the world and has a range of well over 6000 kms from the Australian Coast. Their spy Satellites not only can listen to your phone calls, hack your emails, IP Addresses, look at you whilst taking a skinny dip in your pool, but they can track missiles, aircraft and ships.

And on top of that, Australia just scored a Free Trade Agreement with China! SUCKERS!

Do some research on PINE GAP! This is one of the biggest and most secret spy bases in the world!

That's why
You are ignored!

[Paphitis]

You don’t need experts to tell you that the plane is lying at the bottom of the ocean somewhere and that none of the civil aviation radars are/were capable of tracking it down.

The quality radars are military radars but they’re tuned to other regions; if a needle drops in the ME they’ll tell you where it dropped and who owned it!

EXACTLY!

But try telling that to Kikapu and Pyro!

It was bloody obvious to me that MH370 couldn't possibly go along the Northern Corridor.

But back to CNN, I thought it was excellent coverage and very detailed. They covered everything off very nicely without the need to exaggerate, distort or use hyperbole.

More than anything, this debacle has exposed the obsolete civil aviation radar systems in the region and beyond and how most of the world’s tax dollars are being invested in military radar systems while fuck-all goes into civil aviation systems.

Secondary Surveillance Radar is state of the art. In fact Primary Radars are capable of detecting SSR Transponders and get a lot of information about aircraft in this way it is just that Primary radar is more capable of detecting flights that do not have Transponders On (military aircraft).

SSR Radars can also detect aircraft without a Transponder but there will be no altitude information etc.

Basically people all of you have been taken for a ride.

Plus you all deserve it. I told you what I thought many weeks ago. I know exactly what their capabilities are.JORN is the most advance radar system in the world and has a range of well over 6000 kms from the Australian Coast. Their spy Satellites not only can listen to your phone calls, hack your emails, IP Addresses, look at you whilst taking a skinny dip in your pool, but they can track missiles, aircraft and ships.

And on top of that, Australia just scored a Free Trade Agreement with China! SUCKERS!

Do some research on PINE GAP! This is one of the biggest and most secret spy bases in the world!

That's why
You are ignored!

What is so unreasonable about whatever I posted compared to your theories involving shoot down of MH370, landing in Iran and held hostage, landing at Diego Garcia and held hostage by the Americans, Pilots parachuting from the aircraft and God knows what other stupidities you are capable of coming up with?

I in fact told you about my theory weeks ago (which you dismissed), and the more you think about it the more it makes a lot of sense because they do in actual fact have the location of the Black Box that much is VERY CLEAR! So either the Aussies are miracle workers or they had prior knowledge. From the vast global Spy Racket they are a part of, I am totally convinced they they always knew a lot more than they were prepared to let on.

Fact is, Australia has the most advance Primary Radar available on the planet, and the position where MH370 crashed is well and truly in range. There are even rumors that this thing can detect aircraft taking off from Larnaca (or Middle East). They boast that any missile launched in Russia, North Korea or anywhere else is detected in real time. Look up JORN and Pine Gap.

Now back to CNN. They discussed some of your theories on CNN, and Airline Pilots on the panel lost it. I believe they were about to burst out in laughter just like I have burst out in laughter reading your incoherent posts.

[Kikapu]

I in fact told you about my theory weeks ago (which you dismissed), and the more you think about it the more it makes a lot of sense because they do in actual fact have the location of the Black Box that much is VERY CLEAR! So either the Aussies are miracle workers or they had prior knowledge. From the vast global Spy Racket they are a part of, I am totally convinced they they always knew a lot more than they were prepared to let on.

So what are you saying, Paphitis, that the Australians knew all the time where the MH370 crashed into the Southern Indian Ocean from the moment it happened due to their excellent radar system and that they never went to look for survivors for over a week just so not to give their knowledge away, but instead wasted another week trying to find this phantom 12m x 24m floating debris in the area of the "Roaring Forties" before realising that any sort of phantom recovery in these part of the planet was going to be virtually impossible due to heavy winds and seas most of the time, so they came up with the idea that the flight MH370 had in fact crashed about 600 miles further north than originally believed due to MH370 using more fuel because it was flying much faster than originally believed, therefore using more fuel, when in fact, it most probably used more fuel because it was flying at much lower altitude at normal cruising speed, but never mind, because now the seas there were more favourable for locating the phantom plane and the signals from the phantom Black Boxes?

Then the Aussies wasted another 2 weeks looking for more phantom debris in the new area and finally launched the pinger locater 4 weeks after knowing where the MH370 crashed, just in time to get 4 phantom pings after the Chinese got 2 pings, just before the batteries on the Black Boxes went dead, just so to make believe they have in fact found the crash site hence the Black Boxes!

Wasn’t that a lucky break?

Now, tell me my friend, was the above ever discussed on the CNN accusing Australia for not coming to the aid of a crashed passenger jetliner when they knew where the jet had crashed and not try to rescue any possible survivors, because any competent panel discussing the MH370 would have also known what you know, that the Aussies knew all along where the MH370 had crashed and that they would have been quiet disgusted with Australian government, as they should, for them playing games with the lives of any possible survivors.

Well, did they discuss all this on CNN?

[Paphitis]

So what are you saying, Paphitis, that the Australians knew all the time where the MH370 crashed into the Southern Indian Ocean from the moment it happened due to their excellent radar system and that they never went to look for survivors for over a week just so not to give their knowledge away, but instead wasted another week trying to find this phantom 12m x 24m floating debris in the area of the "Roaring Forties" before realising that any sort of phantom recovery in these part of the planet was going to be virtually impossible due to heavy winds and seas most of the time, so they came up with the idea that the flight MH370 had in fact crashed about 600 miles further north than originally believed due to MH370 using more fuel because it was flying much faster than originally believed, therefore using more fuel, when in fact, it most probably used more fuel because it was flying at much lower altitude at normal cruising speed, but never mind, because now the seas there were more favourable for locating the phantom plane and the signals from the phantom Black Boxes?

No if you go back and read my posts I said that it is VERY likely that Australia and the US knew where MH370 crashed early on the piece. I think it is unlikely they knew about it exactly at the time it happened because I seriously doubt they were monitoring aircraft or ships in the area. They really only look at things of interest to them and I doubt a B777 would have sparked any kind of interest or curiosity. Then they started to search in the Southern Indian Ocean and progressively moved into the Indian Ocean and less than a few hours after the Chinese picked up a signal which has now been dismissed, ADV picks up a credible and consistent signal 300nms away and maintains it for 2 hours and 20 minutes. I never said this absolutely but I put it out there as a very viable proposition.

The reason of course is that Australia and the US would be keen to protect their capabilities in light of recent media focus, and the phone tapping affair of Chancellor Merkel and Indonesian Government Officials.

It has nothing to with the seas. They will look for this thing in the roaring fourties if there are credible leads there, not a problem. In fact the RAAF and RAN have done many SAR missions in very difficult seas and nearly all the way to Antarctica.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Bullimore

Then the Aussies wasted another 2 weeks looking for more phantom debris in the new area and finally launched the pinger locater 4 weeks after knowing where the MH370 crashed, just in time to get 4 phantom pings after the Chinese got 2 pings, just before the batteries on the Black Boxes went dead, just so to make believe they have in fact found the crash site hence the Black Boxes!

If my theory is in fact true, and let's be very clear, it is only a theory but a far more viable theory than anything you or Pyro have come up, then they would know the coordinates, probably searched the area earlier on and detected the signal. They would just hold on to that until the time is right. The reason as i said before, is that Australia and the US do not want to reveal too much about the surveillance and espionage capabilities they do possess. The same thing with those images they released. They looked awful and very grainy. The stuff on Google Earth is better.

Wasn’t that a lucky break?

I agree it could even just be a very lucky break as they were searching along the Inmarsat Southern Corridor. In fact the search area is right on that corridor.

I will never doubt the capability of the ADF (RAAF and RAN). This country has never ceased to amaze me. I know what they are capable of and I know they always believe they can achieve the unachievable. Seen it so many times.

I do believe they can perform miracles. Got the best and most expensive toys to help them out too!

Now, tell me my friend, was the above ever discussed on the CNN accusing Australia for not coming to the aid of a crashed passenger jetliner when they knew where the jet had crashed and not try to rescue any possible survivors, because any competent panel discussing the MH370 would have also known what you know, that the Aussies knew all along where the MH370 had crashed and that they would have been quiet disgusted with Australian government, as they should, for them playing games with the lives of any possible survivors.

Well, did they discuss all this on CNN?

No it was not discussed on CNN but the Malaysian Government did plea with the US and Australia to make data from Pine Gap available. I don't believe they ever did that at any stage. It was discussed by many early on in the piece. Many people voiced disbelief that this plane can simply just vanish like that, and maybe it didn't just vanish and they knew about it all along. Very difficult for the US or AUS to just come out and say we know where it is when there was no Transponder, ADS-B or ACARS.

But somehow, they found some signals which they believe to be consistent and now they have found an oil slick which they are investigating.

The Bluefin-21 is being launched tonight according to Angus Houston.

[Kikapu]

I think it is unlikely they knew about it exactly at the time it happened because I seriously doubt they were monitoring aircraft or ships in the area. They really only look at things of interest to them and I doubt a B777 would have sparked any kind of interest or curiosity.

So tell my Paphitis, why would the Australian Radar system with a range of 6,000nm ignored the MH370 in the Southern Indian Ocean flying low and fast heading towards the Antarctica? I mean, how many passenger jets do you know that fly this route at any given time. Where does a passenger jet fly to heading towards the Antarctica. Rio perhaps?

It has nothing to with the seas. They will look for this thing in the roaring fourties if there are credible leads there, not a problem. In fact the RAAF and RAN have done many SAR missions in very difficult seas and nearly all the way to Antarctica.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Bullimore

I need no lecturing on racing sailors being rescued in high seas, including the Roaring Forties, because these sailors are tough as nails to begin with and are well trained to survive the most hostile conditions. Secondly, they all have EPIRBs (Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon) and the moment it is activated manually or automatically, their position is picked up by the Emergency authorities immediately via satellite and help is sent right away. Most often the sailors are rescued alive within hours. That is much different than sending ships to this area to hunt for a phantom crashed plane or search for pings from a phantom Black Boxes. I have spent some time on a sailboat in 40ft rolling waves in a storm to know what those sea conditions and winds really are.

[Paphitis]

JORN is not always manned or monitored 24/7 and unless there is some kind of heightened alert or there is a security reason. Australia does not monitor it all the time unless there is a reason to do so.

They also are willing to search and rescue anyone or anything in the vast SAR zone. This plane has gone down in their zone and as such they are willing to look for it in any part of that zone and they have the resources and equipment to do so.

[Pyrpolizer]

Basically people all of you have been taken for a ride.

Plus you all deserve it. I told you what I thought many weeks ago. I know exactly what their capabilities are.JORN is the most advance radar system in the world and has a range of well over 6000 kms from the Australian Coast. Their spy Satellites not only can listen to your phone calls, hack your emails, IP Addresses, look at you whilst taking a skinny dip in your pool, but they can track missiles, aircraft and ships.

And on top of that, Australia just scored a Free Trade Agreement with China! SUCKERS!

Do some research on PINE GAP! This is one of the biggest and most secret spy bases in the world!

That's why
You are ignored![/quote]