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[Maximus]

Oh, btw, καλο πασχα, καλι αναστασι to my CF aquaintances.

Alithos anesti o kierios.

[Maximus]

you mean to tell me you people still believe that a virgin gave birth. how bloody simple are you ffs.

Ask your local Mufti to explain why the God who created the heavens and the Earth shouldn’t have too much of a problem causing a human virgin to conceive.

God made you in his image Lordo.

Anything is possible !

[zan]

So.........God made the heavens and the earth and the virgin birth and..........The TCs as part of Cyprus..................Why are you guys so keen to undo Gods work

[Get Real!]

So.........God made the heavens and the earth and the virgin birth and..........The TCs as part of Cyprus..................Why are you guys so keen to undo Gods work

Now you’re getting all confused with the work of the devil… Selim II, was the embodiment of the Antichrist in the 16th century.

[Maximus]

So.........God made the heavens and the earth and the virgin birth and..........The TCs as part of Cyprus..................Why are you guys so keen to undo Gods work

1570 years after the birth of Christ the Turks showed up in the region and commit crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, theft and desecrate his sacrilegious places or convert them to mosques, or stables, etc.

Why are the Turks so keen to undo gods work? The devil sinned from the very beginning.

[zan]

Let him without sin ..............etc etc

[erolz66]

Let him without sin ..............etc etc

Zan just admit it, we are the children of the Devil and 'they' are the children of God.

[Viewpoint]

This begs the question do you know that a unitary state is not the same as a federation composed of two states. This is what is currently on offer and being negotiating by your leaders. Does your right hand know what your left hand is doing? You come accross as someone who is oblivious to the facts and reality staring them in the face someone who has their own utopia which they are fruitlessly trying to impose on others.

You just cant answer the question can you?

Its been four posts and responses from you and instead of telling me how your two state partnership state works, I might as well be talking to a brick wall. Your full of it and I don't know why I bother with you VP. You are beyond rational thought and reason and just want to stamp your feet like an immature brat..

The answer involves some sort of apartheid disguised as a partnership though doesn't it?

Anyway, who cares pffft. back to the topic of the thread. Fascists Turkish thieves and the TMT trying to prevent an Easter service in occupied Cyprus.

I have answered but your blindness to the reality in front of does not allow you to see yet alone understand what I am saying because that how the mind of fascist maximilist terrorist works , you talk of a unitary state where GCs rule supreme and we are reduced to minority status. I talk of two states under a Federal umbrella (which is currenty on offer and being discussed by our leaders), these are two different things. Do you not understand how a BBF will operate is that your problem? is that why you keep asking how the TC state will operate? this is a very wide area so being specific will save time, from what I can gather you mention aparthied, so maybe you are asking how this will operate in our state. Well everyone will be free to settle and live in which ever state they choose.

[Maximus]

I was asking how your two state partnership state will work? how will the federal umbrella work? in a unitary(united) Cyprus with a single international personality and a single citizenship. Adhering to all UN resolutions and the UN charter by the way.

So it will not be democratic then. the TCs can do what they want and its none of the GCs business. is this what you think?

[Viewpoint]

I was asking how your two state partnership state will work? how will the federal umbrella work? in a unitary(united) Cyprus with a single international personality and a single citizenship. Adhering to all UN resolutions and the UN charter by the way.

So it will not be democratic then. the TCs can do what they want and its none of the GCs business. is this what you think?

So now we have all understood that you do not understand the difference between how a federated state and a unitary state "works" functions, let me enlighten you, a federal system is as follows;

"A federation, also known as a federal state, is a political entity characterized by a union of partially self-governing states or regions under a central (federal) government. In a federation, the self-governing status of the component states, as well as the division of power between them and the central government, are typically constitutionally entrenched and may not be altered by a unilateral decision of either party, the states or the federal political body." add to this a single international personality and a single citizenship and hey presto you have the main core of whats being negotiating by our leaders right now.

There are federated states all over the world that you can choose to study but of course you do not want to share you want to dominate so of course you demand continuaiton of the "RoC" with our rights removed or a unitary state where you can use your numerical advantage to take control of the whole island. Well that aint ever gonna happen, you lost that chance in 1974 when Cyprus was divided forever, now the UN and most of the world support a federal solution not a unitary solution, even your leaders over the past years have time and time again commited to this, any turning back will definately cement partition and a gradual recognition of the TRNC. You leaders appear to be far more intelligent than you by seeing the risks and signing a joint declaration in front of the world that they are commited to a 2 state federal solution. So in short the unitary state you demand that will give you the upper hand is not on offer its a federal system whereby you have to share with us your partners (I know this must kill you but hey you have been kept if the dark for to long and reality/truth always hurts).