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[MrH]

Yes! Forget silly, sidelining issues such as the so called return of Varosha and impractical Territorial adjustments and get down to the real issue as to why the GC said "NO" in 2004 to the Annan Plan, and why they will always say "NO" to any such plan that does not see them as the Majority Rule party.

The Cyprus problem is one of sharing the same homeland by two – yes one is smaller than the other – peoples, the relationship between which is not one of minority and majority but of two politically equal peoples. The Cyprus problem started with Greek Cypriots trying to usurp the inalienable rights of the Turkish Cypriot people (by forcing the 13 point changes in 1963 against the will of the Partner Turkish Cypriots) – including their right to live – and has been continuing because of the intransigence to recognise the share of Turkish Cypriots in the sovereignty and administration of the island. The territorial aspect is of course important, but NOT the fundamental aspect of the Cyprus problem.

That is why a Solution today can only materialize in the form of TWO Republic states; because the Greek Cypriot "WILL NOT BECOME A COMMUNITY".

[MrH]

Ban Ki Moon is fully aware of the above, which is why the Greek Cypriots should be preparing itself for the Annan Plan 6 (or Ban Ki Plan).

[MrH]

Ooooo....52 Views and NO replies yet....looks like the Greek Cypriots on this know when they've been zapped with the Truth!

[bill cobbett]

Yes! Forget silly, sidelining issues such as the so called return of Varosha and impractical Territorial adjustments and get down to the real issue as to why the GC said "NO" in 2004 to the Annan Plan, and why they will always say "NO" to any such plan that does not see them as the Majority Rule party.

The Cyprus problem is one of sharing the same homeland by two – yes one is smaller than the other – peoples, the relationship between which is not one of minority and majority but of two politically equal peoples. The Cyprus problem started with Greek Cypriots trying to usurp the inalienable rights of the Turkish Cypriot people (by forcing the 13 point changes in 1963 against the will of the Partner Turkish Cypriots) – including their right to live – and has been continuing because of the intransigence to recognise the share of Turkish Cypriots in the sovereignty and administration of the island. The territorial aspect is of course important, but NOT the fundamental aspect of the Cyprus problem.

That is why a Solution today can only materialize in the form of TWO Republic states; because the Greek Cypriot "WILL NOT BECOME A COMMUNITY".

Yes,... very sad when anyone clicks on posts to get the count up.

Now, Mr H... can you tell us which Intransigent Agent for Illegal Settlers and Turkey you are quoting above please. ...

... and can you tell us how you know the UN Sec General ... " is fully aware of this..." (whatever you mean by it )

[B25]

Yes! Forget silly, sidelining issues such as the so called return of Varosha and impractical Territorial adjustments and get down to the real issue as to why the GC said "NO" in 2004 to the Annan Plan, and why they will always say "NO" to any such plan that does not see them as the Majority Rule party.

The Cyprus problem is one of sharing the same homeland by two – yes one is smaller than the other – peoples, the relationship between which is not one of minority and majority but of two politically equal peoples. The Cyprus problem started with Greek Cypriots trying to usurp the inalienable rights of the Turkish Cypriot people (by forcing the 13 point changes in 1963 against the will of the Partner Turkish Cypriots) – including their right to live – and has been continuing because of the intransigence to recognise the share of Turkish Cypriots in the sovereignty and administration of the island. The territorial aspect is of course important, but NOT the fundamental aspect of the Cyprus problem.

That is why a Solution today can only materialize in the form of TWO Republic states; because the Greek Cypriot "WILL NOT BECOME A COMMUNITY".

Yes,... very sad when anyone clicks on posts to get the count up.

Now, Mr H... can you tell us which Intransigent Agent for Illegal Settlers and Turkey you are quoting above please. ...

... and can you tell us how you know the UN Sec General ... " is fully aware of this..." (whatever you mean by it )

BillC, don't feed the troll. he is full of sh*t!

[MrH]

Hi Bill, thank you for answering this post, and please ignore B25....the Greek Cypriot younger generation haven't really seen anything about Cyprus' historical events, therefore are filled with pointless views and deep anger against anything Turkish/Turkish Cypriot (which is why I guess why the island can never truly unite!).

In answer to your question. Obviously, as this is an open forum, and administered and controlled by the likes of Greek Cypriots only, there is very little that I can say. In short, I can only say the current Turkish Cypriot team accompanying Mr Eroglu are very close, old friends of mine. We meet very regularly and share ideas. You don't have to believe me, but I am there line for the Turkish Cypriot Association in London. Eroglu usually doesn't do anything without our ultimate advice/consultation. Our views in London mean a lot to him as the vast majority of the Turkish Cypriot population live here and have a very powerful hold on his politics - hence, it was us whom pushed Talat through the window when his politics failed to materialise any results.

As I said, believe it or not it is up to you, but ask Get Real for instance how long he has been arguing with me since the ATCA forum days!!

[Klik]

Their right to live?
The problem is that they want to rule the island as a minority. They want to have an independent island-state that is ruled by the minority. If that's not absurd, then what is? It's also never happened anywhere else except in Empires... Someone still has Ottoman mentality it seems.

[Viewpoint]

Their right to live?
The problem is that they want to rule the island as a minority. They want to have an independent island-state that is ruled by the minority. If that's not absurd, then what is? It's also never happened anywhere else except in Empires... Someone still has Ottoman mentality it seems.

Do you know what a BBF is? go do some research you sound real dumb.

[Jerry]

Their right to live?
The problem is that they want to rule the island as a minority. They want to have an independent island-state that is ruled by the minority. If that's not absurd, then what is? It's also never happened anywhere else except in Empires... Someone still has Ottoman mentality it seems.

Do you know what a BBF is? go do some research you sound real dumb.

Yeah we know what your BBF is VP, 37% of Cyprus, twice what your legitimate population entitles you to, our punishment for not accepting the AP etc and for what you claim happened to you pre 1974.

[Viewpoint]

Their right to live?
The problem is that they want to rule the island as a minority. They want to have an independent island-state that is ruled by the minority. If that's not absurd, then what is? It's also never happened anywhere else except in Empires... Someone still has Ottoman mentality it seems.

Do you know what a BBF is? go do some research you sound real dumb.

Yeah we know what your BBF is VP, 37% of Cyprus, twice what your legitimate population entitles you to, our punishment for not accepting the AP etc and for what you claim happened to you pre 1974.

When were we given 37%? or at which talks did we claim such a %, I think youll find the maximum that was agreed at the table was 27% with the rights of GCs to return. So you need to get your facts rights and remove the propaganda cobwebs you have in your head.