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London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 02, 2014 6:50 pm

... and again with "Cyprus is Turkish" banners and what look like TMT Emblems...

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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby boulio » Fri May 02, 2014 7:48 pm

even before eoka start there fight.
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 02, 2014 9:56 pm

They are protesting against enosis and that the island is not Greek...no sign of taksim.
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 02, 2014 11:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:They are protesting against enosis and that the island is not Greek...no sign of taksim.


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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 03, 2014 12:30 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:They are protesting against enosis and that the island is not Greek...no sign of taksim.


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Cant see anything about demanding taksim....and the whole island was once part of the Ottoman Empire so in effect Turkish.
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby bill cobbett » Sat May 03, 2014 1:07 am

Anyone know what this emblem is about... ???

(It appears throughout the vid)
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby DT. » Sat May 03, 2014 1:44 am

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:They are protesting against enosis and that the island is not Greek...no sign of taksim.


:roll: ...


Cant see anything about demanding taksim....and the whole island was once part of the Ottoman Empire so in effect Turkish.



Little less doctrination and a little more action...expect more From some of the tc members!
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby erolz66 » Sat May 03, 2014 3:00 am

DT. wrote:Little less doctrination and a little more action...expect more From some of the tc members!


Once again I am mystified. You are surprised that TC did not want to see British colonial rule in their own homeland replaced with Greek colonial rule, with them having no say in the matter ? I am Cypriot. I would strive for Cyprus and independence for Cyprus but how can you possibly ever imagine I would do anything except resist Cyprus being made a colony of Greece ?
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby Sotos » Sat May 03, 2014 11:25 am

erolz66 wrote:
DT. wrote:Little less doctrination and a little more action...expect more From some of the tc members!


Once again I am mystified. You are surprised that TC did not want to see British colonial rule in their own homeland replaced with Greek colonial rule, with them having no say in the matter ? I am Cypriot. I would strive for Cyprus and independence for Cyprus but how can you possibly ever imagine I would do anything except resist Cyprus being made a colony of Greece ?


Cyprus is a Greek island with a native Greek population since antiquity. The colonials are the British and the Turks and that is obvious... unless of course you want to keep Cyprus under colonial rule, which is what the Turks and the British wanted. Your small ethnic minority are basically the colonialists that came just before the British colonialists. Neither you nor the British had a problem to force a Greek islands like Cyprus under your empires but then you found it objectionable that Greek islands should be part of Greece :roll: Colonialism is when a foreign nation forcefully keeps a territory of another nation under its rule... which is what the Turks and the British did to Cyprus. When the populations of two territories that are of the same nation choose democratically to unite it is called union, in Greek: Enosis.
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Re: London, "Turks" Marching in 1954

Postby erolz66 » Sat May 03, 2014 12:57 pm

Sotos wrote:Cyprus is a Greek island with a native Greek population since antiquity. The colonials are the British and the Turks and that is obvious... unless of course you want to keep Cyprus under colonial rule, which is what the Turks and the British wanted. Your small ethnic minority are basically the colonialists that came just before the British colonialists. Neither you nor the British had a problem to force a Greek islands like Cyprus under your empires but then you found it objectionable that Greek islands should be part of Greece :roll: Colonialism is when a foreign nation forcefully keeps a territory of another nation under its rule... which is what the Turks and the British did to Cyprus. When the populations of two territories that are of the same nation choose democratically to unite it is called union, in Greek: Enosis.


I understand that you believe Cyprus is a 'Greek Island' and thus only GC should have any say over its future and that TC are just 'colonists' that should either accept they have no say over the future of Cyprus or fuck off. Unfortunately TC do not believe this and nor does the rest of the world. It is this very belief that GC have and had a right to impose their will on TC in Cyprus and TC determination to resist such that is at the core of the Cyprus problem and sustains it into the future.
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