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[repulsewarrior]

...do you think because you use a new word you've learned that I assume from it that you've read my reply; I will not repeat myself four times.

[Viewpoint]

...do you think because you use a new word you've learned that I assume from it that you've read my reply; I will not repeat myself four times.

Please use clear English so we can all understand, are you apologizng for the racist fiasco the GCs instigated against TCs last Sunday? or are you like the majority of GCs making excuses and ignoring that my rights have been taken away?

[bill cobbett]

...do you think because you use a new word you've learned that I assume from it that you've read my reply; I will not repeat myself four times.

Please use clear English so we can all understand, are you apologizng for the racist fiasco the GCs instigated against TCs last Sunday? or are you like the majority of GCs making excuses and ignoring that my rights have been taken away?

Did you vote in the elections, VP... ??? ... or did you try to vote... ??? ... or did you encourage others to vote...???

[Lordo]

and what about this 40,000 tcs who were prevented from voting my charlui friend. what about this for a democracy. there is a lot of questions but no answers from certain quarters.

[Maximus]

Here is a reason why a TC candidate (Erkin Salih) withdrew from running in the European elections at the last minute and why he started advising TC's not to vote.

Because of the way the elections are being conducted. Also because I fear the Turkish Cypriots will be asked to fill out forms with their names and addresses - information that the [RoC] Ministry of Interior can easily share with the Land Registry in the South. As a result, more Greek Cypriots can then know the Turkish Cypriot residing in their property which can result in more Greek Cypriots opening court cases against Turkish Cypriots in the South and later in the EU courts, like the Orams case. Turkish Cypriots will get a big headache as a result.

http://tvinemedia.blogspot.co.uk/2014/0 ... ht-as.html

Which is exactly how it is done to be eligible to vote, across all of Europe.

And he wanted to be a Euro MP and lives in the government controlled areas FFS !!

[B25]

Here is a reason why a TC candidate (Erkin Salih) withdrew from running in the European elections at the last minute and why he started advising TC's not to vote.

Because of the way the elections are being conducted. Also because I fear the Turkish Cypriots will be asked to fill out forms with their names and addresses - information that the [RoC] Ministry of Interior can easily share with the Land Registry in the South. As a result, more Greek Cypriots can then know the Turkish Cypriot residing in their property which can result in more Greek Cypriots opening court cases against Turkish Cypriots in the South and later in the EU courts, like the Orams case. Turkish Cypriots will get a big headache as a result.

http://tvinemedia.blogspot.co.uk/2014/0 ... ht-as.html

Which is exactly how it is done to be eligible to vote, across all of Europe.

And he wanted to be a Euro MP and lives in the government controlled areas FFS !!

Maxi, it was the Twats that run the RoC that are at fault here, why the hell they thought they could extend some goodwill to the Turks I never know. It was obvious they were going to use it against us.

The reason the TCs didn't vote is in black and white and crystal as stated by their very own Erkin Salih. and repeated here for convenience:

... I fear the Turkish Cypriots will be asked to fill out forms with their names and addresses - information that the [RoC] Ministry of Interior can easily share with the Land Registry in the South. As a result, more Greek Cypriots can then know the Turkish Cypriot residing in their property which can result in more Greek Cypriots opening court cases against Turkish Cypriots .... [/b]

We do like to re-emphasise these comments as a reminder to the tyrant like people such as VP and his ilk.

[Maximus]

Here is a reason why a TC candidate (Erkin Salih) withdrew from running in the European elections at the last minute and why he started advising TC's not to vote.

Because of the way the elections are being conducted. Also because I fear the Turkish Cypriots will be asked to fill out forms with their names and addresses - information that the [RoC] Ministry of Interior can easily share with the Land Registry in the South. As a result, more Greek Cypriots can then know the Turkish Cypriot residing in their property which can result in more Greek Cypriots opening court cases against Turkish Cypriots in the South and later in the EU courts, like the Orams case. Turkish Cypriots will get a big headache as a result.

http://tvinemedia.blogspot.co.uk/2014/0 ... ht-as.html

Which is exactly how it is done to be eligible to vote, across all of Europe.

And he wanted to be a Euro MP and lives in the government controlled areas FFS !!

Maxi, it was the Twats that run the RoC that are at fault here, why the hell they thought they could extend some goodwill to the Turks I never know. It was obvious they were going to use it against us.

The reason the TCs didn't vote is in black and white and crystal as stated by their very own Erkin Salih. and repeated here for convenience:

... I fear the Turkish Cypriots will be asked to fill out forms with their names and addresses - information that the [RoC] Ministry of Interior can easily share with the Land Registry in the South. As a result, more Greek Cypriots can then know the Turkish Cypriot residing in their property which can result in more Greek Cypriots opening court cases against Turkish Cypriots .... [/b]

We do like to re-emphasise these comments as a reminder to the tyrant like people such as VP and his ilk.

I know, it is the RoC's fault for making way for them to participate but that article says it all really and why they should not be participating or get any votes from citizens of the Republic.

Since the borders opened in April 2003, some 100,000 Turkish Cypriots have taken up their right to become RoC citizens. For many this is primarily about having an EU passport that allows them the right to travel freely across Europe and beyond. Others have also taken advantage of services in the South, including health care and welfare benefits.

And here, from the most worthy candidate of the most unworthy bunch of candidates.

Several prominent voices, including Sener Levent, editor of Afrika newspaper and an independent candidate in the EU elections, and İzzet İzcan, leader of the Turkish Cypriot United Cyprus Party, have called on the EU authorities to annul the results of the Cypriot ballot and to force a re-run.

Because the TC's rights have been unlawfully denied. I mean WTF? He got less than 1% of the vote and a rerun will not make any difference whatsoever anyway.

But this one is my favorite

Another candidate Deniz Birinci said: "This is a huge infringement of human rights and of people's democratic and civil rights”

They want it all without following the rules or giving back that which is not theirs in the first place. They keep wanting in when they should be getting out.

[repulsewarrior]

...I repeat myself, since the Register was not published in time to be corrected or revised, the injustice to voters is clear. one can easily deduce that 40,000 electors were misplaced, simply because they have an address as Citizens which does not correspond to the address where they reside, what does this imply for voters as a whole? I ask, if 30% of the population does not vote consistently, how accurate is the voter's list, with the assumptions which were (wrongly) made?

indeed, it would be hard to vote, if as a Cypriot (using a Cypriot ID that is revised every five years), one lives in a home, illegally. ironically, those that were automatically registered were cardholders with accurate residency, in the north. in any case, Citizenship defines the Individual to the State, an ID Card defines the willingness of an Individual to define themselves to said same State, the Electoral Role defines residency; they are not all exactly the same.

Justice is seen when every effort is made to allow for every Citizen, their right to vote in an election. it is obvious to me that all potential voters are not on the voting list, the voting lists are not an accurate description of potential voters, it appears. In this case, unlike with Harper's Canada, it is not an attempt to influence the results of a future election, just a clumsy Bureaucracy, but like Canada, the opposition to such efforts is loud and clear; I have little doubt that in the next election, this error will be corrected, so that the same opportunity is not given to the Republic's adversaries, although I am afraid that the right questions will remain unasked.

[Maximus]

RW,

Next time, they will have to give and verify their residential address in the occupied areas. Which they did not want and will not do !!

And, I do not think there should be a next time until the occupation ends.

[repulsewarrior]

...if the objective is a 100% turn-out, the Role itself must be accurate; such an achievement would be farce if the list is not complete.

indeed, it seems unjust to see an Individual vote from a home illegally occupied, I would suspect that many who are in this situation would rather remain uncounted, perhaps they should be, but I am not so quick to judge without acknowledging their Individual past. I have said it before, the debate is wrongly framed, and nowhere is there Representation for Cypriots, as Cypriots, the debate as it is excludes them (an identity); there are "Greeks" and "Turks" who are the same in acting unchangingly/there are those who see Cyprus as an island and who think it is worth more to them as Cypriots, and as Individuals, having Freedom for All, because it can include the self representation of Persons, Liberty in this sense, for themselves.

...my guess is the Role as it exists, is more a list of Party supporters, willing to vote, and as such we see a reflection, in this election, of the patterns seen in the Presidential election. if Turkish Cypriots voted en masse within the EU elections, as Cypriots, as a distinct minority, even as things are arranged today, they would yield exceptional power in the balance of things. the only reason not to vote if you are Turkish Cypriot, is if you do not want a Cyprus, everything should be done then, to get all the voters to get out and vote. distasteful or not, (to the overwhelming population), it is what is the State, and what the Republic must stand for.