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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby zan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:37 pm

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miltiades wrote:I came to the UK on my own accord in 1961. The freedom to exercise the option of going back to where I came from has always been available. Many immigrants, including many of their off springs not only detest our way of life but want to establish their brand of culture which would take Britain back to medieval times.

Misguided and brainwashed, mentally raped individuals who consider their culture as supreme have the same option I had and still have. Back to their own countries, don't like it, out you go.

The vast majority by large are peaceful law abiding citizens and want nothing to do with the extremists who one day will wreak havoc in Britain with devastating consequences. Four such fanatics brought London to a standstill in July 2005 causing 52 deaths, including their useless selves, and 700 injuries, imagine what 100 such fanatics would do.

The UK has now, I believe, elevated the risk posed by extremists to the highest level , I just hope its not too late, time will tell.

" In an interview with the Portuguese newspaper Público a month after the 2004 Madrid train bombings, Syrian-born cleric Omar Bakri Muhammad warned that "a very well-organised" London-based group which he called "al-Qaeda Europe" was "on the verge of launching a big operation.In December 2004, Bakri vowed that, if Western governments did not change their policies, Muslims would give them "a 9/11, day after day after day."
They are real risks, not imaginary, anyone in denial is a fool.


Interests win Milti... Your kind... how it suites them...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/uk-su ... halal-meat

In the caption on a photo accompanying this article, the reliably dimwitted Daily Mail writes: “Nearly 200 Subway branches across the UK and Ireland have cut out ham and bacon, selling only halal meat, in response to demand from their multicultural customers.”

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You could have been a share holder of subways... :roll:

"The Islamization of Britain gallops on: “Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 stores after ‘strong demand’ from Muslims who can only eat halal meat,” by Lizzie Parry, Daily Mail, April 30, 2014"


What this has to do with the topic God only knows!

Yes the west is more than willing to accommodate for a wide variety of dietary needs. Even airlines ask you of your dietary requirements, whether it be Vegetarian, Vegan or Halal, or just give you a made to order meal. The West is also willing to accommodate Islamic cultural and religious needs for the many thousands that migrate to those countries.

The same can not be said of Christian Minorities in Islamic Countries. I bet the Islamic State do not look at the dietary, cultural, or religious needs of those minorities. No of course not.

If you ask me, Halal Meat should be outlawed because I place a greater emphasis on a quick, swift and as painless slaughter of the animal as is possible and I place this as a higher priority over the dietary needs of Muslims, but the UK, US and Australia don't see it that way. If you ask me, Australia and the US should ban live exports to Islamic Countries, even Turkey! Either they buy the meat processed or nothing at all.



It has nothing to do with religion Paphitis but business. If you sell these products with any possibility of it being " contaminated" ( pls notice speech marks) by pork then you do not get the business volume you require. These are big businesses and they analyse their customers and adjust accordingly for bigger profits. End of!!!!! If you think that ANY businessman/woman is going to "sacrifice" profit for religion then look out for the ones that have gone bankrupt :wink: another reason you see Jewish and Muslim butchers advertising both Halal and Kosher. If it were for religious reasons then for " gods" sake.....who are bigger enemies than these two?
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby zan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:38 pm

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Tim Drayton wrote:Signs that Turkey is getting ready to recognise an independent Kurdish state in the north of ex-Iraq:

Vice-president of the ruling AKP, Hüseyin Çelik, has said, “Their name is Kurdistan and this must be accepted” and “If Iraq is divided, and this appears to be inevitable, they are our brother.”

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... amasi.html



Objective one complete..........


Will Nicos now commit to a fair solution in Cyprus or see the TRNC recognised by a few more countries.......especially those with gas interests. :wink:

Nikos might chose to wait and see how turkey is divided up before making up his mind :wink:

The israelis might have different ideas as to regards to turkey....just remember israel pulls us strings....

BTW....the honourable resident drop kick might want to expand how many countries recognise the occupied when he says "by a few more countries" implying some already do... :wink:


I'm expecting to see Turkey cede a small amount of territory in return for a free-trade deal with the new oil-rich Kurdistan. Turkey will lose a bit of poor, mountainous terrain that can barely even support a few sheep and in return its metal bashing and civil engineering companies will get a slice of the business as Kurdistan's oil infrastructure is built up and its other companies, especially banks and retailers, will be able to move in. That's the carrot. Just my guess.



I don't think that's a bad guess at all Tim.


@ Caveman,

Turkey is one of course, Kurdistan might follow as suggested indirectly and Israel, wanting its gas pipe to go through TRNC and Turkey onto the EU :!: :wink:
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:54 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Signs that Turkey is getting ready to recognise an independent Kurdish state in the north of ex-Iraq:

Vice-president of the ruling AKP, Hüseyin Çelik, has said, “Their name is Kurdistan and this must be accepted” and “If Iraq is divided, and this appears to be inevitable, they are our brother.”

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... amasi.html



Objective one complete..........


Will Nicos now commit to a fair solution in Cyprus or see the TRNC recognised by a few more countries.......especially those with gas interests. :wink:

Nikos might chose to wait and see how turkey is divided up before making up his mind :wink:

The israelis might have different ideas as to regards to turkey....just remember israel pulls us strings....

BTW....the honourable resident drop kick might want to expand how many countries recognise the occupied when he says "by a few more countries" implying some already do... :wink:


I'm expecting to see Turkey cede a small amount of territory in return for a free-trade deal with the new oil-rich Kurdistan. Turkey will lose a bit of poor, mountainous terrain that can barely even support a few sheep and in return its metal bashing and civil engineering companies will get a slice of the business as Kurdistan's oil infrastructure is built up and its other companies, especially banks and retailers, will be able to move in. That's the carrot. Just my guess.



I don't think that's a bad guess at all Tim.


@ Caveman,

Turkey is one of course, Kurdistan might follow as suggested indirectly and Israel, wanting its gas pipe to go through TRNC and Turkey onto the EU :!: :wink:


What has made me expect this for some time is:

1- The way that Turkey has been developing cordial relations with the autonomous Kurdish entity in northern Iraq for a few years now, and is even exporting its oil via a pipeline to the Turkish coast independent of the official Iraq government.
2- The way that a number of prominent business leaders in Turkey have voiced support for recognition of an independent Kurdistan - they can surely see where their bread will be buttered.

This makes me think that there is a carrot (or two) in this for Turkey. A deal that involves ceding some territory will be hard to sell to the Turkish people, though. given that they have been brought up on a diet of uncompromising nationalism for decades.
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby zan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:56 pm

boomerang wrote:Kfc australia in certain areas does not serve ham and bacon as well...



Near the Spurs football ground in Tottenham there are at least five fried chicken places that, on a Sunday afternoon, are filled to breaking point with Muslim women and their children. I don't know if it's a long running tradition or a new phenomena with queues going around the corner to each one but who would you cater for my big business caveman when the "white" population seem to be going for the "healthy" option?
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:02 pm

zan wrote:
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miltiades wrote:I came to the UK on my own accord in 1961. The freedom to exercise the option of going back to where I came from has always been available. Many immigrants, including many of their off springs not only detest our way of life but want to establish their brand of culture which would take Britain back to medieval times.

Misguided and brainwashed, mentally raped individuals who consider their culture as supreme have the same option I had and still have. Back to their own countries, don't like it, out you go.

The vast majority by large are peaceful law abiding citizens and want nothing to do with the extremists who one day will wreak havoc in Britain with devastating consequences. Four such fanatics brought London to a standstill in July 2005 causing 52 deaths, including their useless selves, and 700 injuries, imagine what 100 such fanatics would do.

The UK has now, I believe, elevated the risk posed by extremists to the highest level , I just hope its not too late, time will tell.

" In an interview with the Portuguese newspaper Público a month after the 2004 Madrid train bombings, Syrian-born cleric Omar Bakri Muhammad warned that "a very well-organised" London-based group which he called "al-Qaeda Europe" was "on the verge of launching a big operation.In December 2004, Bakri vowed that, if Western governments did not change their policies, Muslims would give them "a 9/11, day after day after day."
They are real risks, not imaginary, anyone in denial is a fool.


Interests win Milti... Your kind... how it suites them...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/uk-su ... halal-meat

In the caption on a photo accompanying this article, the reliably dimwitted Daily Mail writes: “Nearly 200 Subway branches across the UK and Ireland have cut out ham and bacon, selling only halal meat, in response to demand from their multicultural customers.”

-------------000000000000000-------------------

You could have been a share holder of subways... :roll:

"The Islamization of Britain gallops on: “Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 stores after ‘strong demand’ from Muslims who can only eat halal meat,” by Lizzie Parry, Daily Mail, April 30, 2014"


What this has to do with the topic God only knows!

Yes the west is more than willing to accommodate for a wide variety of dietary needs. Even airlines ask you of your dietary requirements, whether it be Vegetarian, Vegan or Halal, or just give you a made to order meal. The West is also willing to accommodate Islamic cultural and religious needs for the many thousands that migrate to those countries.

The same can not be said of Christian Minorities in Islamic Countries. I bet the Islamic State do not look at the dietary, cultural, or religious needs of those minorities. No of course not.

If you ask me, Halal Meat should be outlawed because I place a greater emphasis on a quick, swift and as painless slaughter of the animal as is possible and I place this as a higher priority over the dietary needs of Muslims, but the UK, US and Australia don't see it that way. If you ask me, Australia and the US should ban live exports to Islamic Countries, even Turkey! Either they buy the meat processed or nothing at all.



It has nothing to do with religion Paphitis but business. If you sell these products with any possibility of it being " contaminated" ( pls notice speech marks) by pork then you do not get the business volume you require. These are big businesses and they analyse their customers and adjust accordingly for bigger profits. End of!!!!! If you think that ANY businessman/woman is going to "sacrifice" profit for religion then look out for the ones that have gone bankrupt :wink: another reason you see Jewish and Muslim butchers advertising both Halal and Kosher. If it were for religious reasons then for " gods" sake.....who are bigger enemies than these two?


Yes I know Zan! It's all business and the farmer get's the smallest slice of the pie unfortunately so I don't blame them. It's survival for these guys sometimes. It's the big chains that make the big bucks.

They are selling live cattle, because it's lucrative. They have Halal Slaughterhouses because there is a market. But I wish there wasn't.

The point being made is that the West, and aside from the business and money, is a lot more accommodating to the needs of everyone, every religion and every culture.
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby zan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:04 pm

What has made me expect this for some time is:

1- The way that Turkey has been developing cordial relations with the autonomous Kurdish entity in northern Iraq for a few years now, and is even exporting its oil via a pipeline to the Turkish coast independent of the official Iraq government.
2- The way that a number of prominent business leaders in Turkey have voiced support for recognition of an independent Kurdistan - they can surely see where their bread will be buttered.

This makes me think that there is a carrot (or two) in this for Turkey. A deal that involves ceding some territory will be hard to sell to the Turkish people, though. given that they have been brought up on a diet of uncompromising nationalism for decades.



Agreed Tim. The biggest opposition would have come from the army and we know what happened there, in the name of the EU. The carrot is Gas for a hungry Turkey and the EU and a desperate Israel to sell them it.
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby zan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:07 pm

Yes I know Zan! It's all business and the farmer get's the smallest slice of the pie unfortunately so I don't blame them.

They are selling live cattle, because it's lucrative. The have Halal Slaughterhouses because there is a market. But I wish there wasn't.

The point being made is that the West, and aside from the business and money, is a lot more accommodating to the needs of everyone, every religion and every culture.


Again mate......Business rules. Not about east or west. If the numbers were there in the East of Western needs then be assured it WOULD be catered for as in allowing alcohol in hotels. Oh! And pork products!!!!
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:25 pm

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Yes I know Zan! It's all business and the farmer get's the smallest slice of the pie unfortunately so I don't blame them.

They are selling live cattle, because it's lucrative. The have Halal Slaughterhouses because there is a market. But I wish there wasn't.

The point being made is that the West, and aside from the business and money, is a lot more accommodating to the needs of everyone, every religion and every culture.


Again mate......Business rules. Not about east or west. If the numbers were there in the East of Western needs then be assured it WOULD be catered for as in allowing alcohol in hotels. Oh! And pork products!!!!


And what about in Saudi Arabia? There are so many Westerners living there, there would be a market for Bacon and Pork I am pretty sure. How about the odd Christian Church to cater to those that require that?
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby boomerang » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:32 pm

zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:Milti opened this thread regarding jihadists going and returnig to the ukw....nothing about cause and effect which deserves a new thread on it's own...but understable for someone that has been dropped on his head once too many times to miss the point... :lol:

yes there will be problems with these morons upon their return to the uk....how the uk fixes this problem without internal escalation remains to be seen....
Maybe the drop kick can tell us how the uk can tackle this problem....



Amazing :lol: The caveman and his sidekick start to lose the argument and want to bring it back the narrow frame they are only capable of handling. Hahahaha!

Would you be laughing if these morons harmed your family since you live in the uk?........ please go ahead and laugh it off dickhead, rather than start thinking how the uk is gonna handle this massive problem....and you call this narrow frame?... I am afraid you can't claim your alien anal probing on this....as you enjoy it so much

wasn't the uk hit with a bus bomb dickhead... weren'a couple of these morons making sushi out of people not long ago? :D ...and you find my statement amusing rather than engaging in how the uk solves the riddle....

Mind you the uk government are concerned, the papers are writing about it and this dickhead finds it amusing....go figure....I am glad I live I australia....
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Re: JIHADISTS: BRITAIN'S NIGHTMARE

Postby zan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:35 pm

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Yes I know Zan! It's all business and the farmer get's the smallest slice of the pie unfortunately so I don't blame them.

They are selling live cattle, because it's lucrative. The have Halal Slaughterhouses because there is a market. But I wish there wasn't.

The point being made is that the West, and aside from the business and money, is a lot more accommodating to the needs of everyone, every religion and every culture.


Again mate......Business rules. Not about east or west. If the numbers were there in the East of Western needs then be assured it WOULD be catered for as in allowing alcohol in hotels. Oh! And pork products!!!!


And what about in Saudi Arabia? There are so many Westerners living there, there would be a market for Bacon and Pork I am pretty sure. How about the odd Christian Church to cater to those that require that?



Not sure about the numbers but as I said, there was a blanket ban in the old days but now you are allowed pork and alcohol in the hotels. I do agree though that Islam does not really allow for pork or alcohol in its religious views but as we see in Turkey it still can be done if business is the bigger winner. I am not sure if churches are disallowed because they were in Ottoman times. As some of us here have said mate, there is a cause and effect with a sideline of fanaticism. None of it is perfect one way or another but to accuse TFC of it is silly to say the least when you think about who owns it and why they are in business in the first place. It's just sensationalist clap trap.
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