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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:12 am

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:Only once now? WHen was that? And you mentioned winning the confederations cup...when was that?


Oh sorry, they made the final and lost on penalties!

Still, beat that! Look, it's gonna take a while to beat this kind of Football Pedigree! 8)

I don't think you will ever get there to be honest! :wink:


:lol: so you've never won a tournament....Greece has won more games than Australia and you still see pedigree :lol:

We gotta meet cause i want some of that wacky backy you're smoking!!!


Yes we have.

We won the OFC 4 times, qualified for more World Cups which btw was always through South America until they joined the Asian Confederations. They were Asian Cup Finalists (lost on penalties) and Confederations Cup Runners up. When has Greece achieved that? 8)



You won the OFC 4 times? Ladies and gentlemen Australia's competitors:



You seem to forget that they were Confederations Cup Runners Up in 2007.

They have beaten all kinds of teams to achieve that, such as Germany and Brazil.

In 2010, they should have got to the QF. The referee gave Italy a bogus penalty that was not a penalty!
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby DT. » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:16 am

Runners up in a no value friendly competition.... You're seriously comparing this with wining the Euro. Paphiti, kani yie mou.
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:18 am

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:Only once now? WHen was that? And you mentioned winning the confederations cup...when was that?


Oh sorry, they made the final and lost on penalties!

Still, beat that! Look, it's gonna take a while to beat this kind of Football Pedigree! 8)

I don't think you will ever get there to be honest! :wink:


:lol: so you've never won a tournament....Greece has won more games than Australia and you still see pedigree :lol:

We gotta meet cause i want some of that wacky backy you're smoking!!!


BUT SERIOUSLY!!

I am very happy about Greece's result. That is the truth.

They played very well. I also hope they beat Costa Rica (I like Costa Rica too) and go to the QF and beyond. Hell, I hope they win the damn tournament.

But, Australia is a very serious Football nation and the entire world recognizes this. They have had a lot of success and have been producing very high quality players that have played for top European Clubs. The A League is strong, although I have never been to a game for about 4 years. It is much stronger today than 4 years ago. They managed to construct the right system to achieve success. These days, A League clubs are able to play and beat anyone.

This current squad has achieved quite a lot. 6 players are about to join the U21 World Cup Squad now. Yes you got it. Postecoglu basically fielded a lot of kids in order to give them a baptism of fire. He only had about 10 weeks to prepare the team. For a team like this to play as well as they did, is a big warning sign and the real story should become very clear in about 4 years time. Personally, I believe they are a top 20 or top 15 side by then.

It's going to be a very formidable team, that will play a very aggressive fast tempo game.

I think it is very unfair to be bashing this team as it is unfair to bash the Greek Team. At the end of the day, both teams qualified. It is especially unfair to bash the Australian Team. Half the side is U21. They are Ollyroos International Players (Under 21).

The Australian team got to measure itself against the best sides and they youngsters know where they are at and what they will need to do and that is what they wanted.


And just a final point, I anticipate that Australia is going to do very well in the U21 World Cup. Half of this team were starters in the current World Cup so it's going to be very interesting.

Postecoglu smashed these young kids alright!
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:19 am

DT. wrote:Runners up in a no value friendly competition.... You're seriously comparing this with wining the Euro. Paphiti, kani yie mou.


Confederations Cup is superior to the World Cup even.

Either way, they got there and conquered the likes of Germany and Brazil. No small feat!
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby DT. » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:38 am

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DT. wrote:Runners up in a no value friendly competition.... You're seriously comparing this with wining the Euro. Paphiti, kani yie mou.


Confederations Cup is superior to the World Cup even.

Either way, they got there and conquered the likes of Germany and Brazil. No small feat!


and thus we sum up this fascinating discussion on football with an Aussie and end it with the statement to end all statements leaving no doubts as to your footballing knowledge. :D
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:31 am

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:Runners up in a no value friendly competition.... You're seriously comparing this with wining the Euro. Paphiti, kani yie mou.


Confederations Cup is superior to the World Cup even.

Either way, they got there and conquered the likes of Germany and Brazil. No small feat!


and thus we sum up this fascinating discussion on football with an Aussie and end it with the statement to end all statements leaving no doubts as to your footballing knowledge. :D


Are you really sure DT. I mean Really!

Confederations is confined to Confederation Winners. The best of each Confederation qualify.

Really, I don't think Greece's Euro Cup win is anything to hang your hat on. It was remarkable because they were written off to begin with. Great achievement for Greece yes, but it was also a Golofardia! :wink:
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby alexISS » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:43 pm

The Euro cup is in fact the toughest of them all. In the World cup, the distribution of slots allows for inferior teams to qualify, whereas all Euro participants are proven capable sides.
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:10 pm

alexISS wrote:The Euro cup is in fact the toughest of them all. In the World cup, the distribution of slots allows for inferior teams to qualify, whereas all Euro participants are proven capable sides.


AlexISS,

There are dozens of very capable sides outside of Europe.

USA, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Columbia, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil, Australia, South Korea, Japan, Egypt, Iran, and a few others.

All these are European grade.

The USA for instance is currently top 10 in the rankings.

Here is a little known fact from most Europeans bar the English who know very well and invest millions into Australian Clubs. Australia was top 20 from 1998 until 2010. The team has declined a lot from players retiring, injury, and resignations. 2013 and 2014 was a disaster. Their Dutch Manager was sacked 3 months before the World Cup and they appointed Greek born Postecoglu 10 weeks before the tournament started. He went to Brazil with young debutants. They are in a phase where they are starting over with new young players.

At one stage they were ranked number 9. Why were they so good? Well Australians and Americans are extremely sports mad and competitive. Facilities and development is first class. Plus, the players have played for some top clubs of Europe. And I mean for some of the best. Some really big names have played for the biggest teams in Europe. Australian clubs are in some way affiliated or owned by some major European clubs like Manchester United. That is why Spanish International striker just got signed by Manchester United for 30 million and will play for Melbourne City.

Now tell me if that is not pedigree to be top twenty for over a decade? Personally, I don't believe Greece can beat Australia. No way. Not if they play like they did against Chile and Holland. But if Greece can beat Australia, I guarantee you they better do it in the next year or so because after that Greece will not be able to compete against Australia for about 10 to 15 years. Greece will decline, whereas the Aussies will be on the rise slowly but surely. In 4 years time they should be top 20, at worst top 30 if things don't go right.

The problem you guys have is that you believe countries like Australia, US et all can't compete.

Other countries that will be on their way up is Japan and South Korea. All these countries are certainly what I would call great middle powers. Maybe not strong like Germany, Holland, Italy or Spain but certainly as good as most other European countries.

And no, the World Cup has to be a lot more tougher because you got the South Americans competing.
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:14 pm



Come on lads! Lets win a WC! :D
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Re: Greece vs Ivory Coast

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:16 pm

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In 2010, they should have got to the QF. The referee gave Italy a bogus penalty that was not a penalty!

Paphitis we fucked you. :twisted:
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