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[insan]

Lordo insists he was pro Enosis, the Junta tried three times to kill him because he was anti Enosis. Go figure.

To this day Greeks demonise him because he stood in the way of Enosis, they love to quote his "desirable versus feasible" speech as proof of his anti Enosis ideology.

He was not anti-Enosis... under then the circumstances, he and his collaborators/supporters decided to postpone Enosis until the circumstances would be suitable; e.g Greece back to democracy...

[insan]

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[Nikitas]

Insan you, like other TCs here surprise me with how closely you reflect mainland Greek thinking.

Most Greeks can only perceive Hellenism in terms of the narrow Athens ruled state. Anything else is beyond their mental grasp. That is how the Junta people thought.

But, there are some who perceive Hellenism in a wider context, and for them having two Greek states, with two votes in the UN, the EU, the Council of Europe, is more important than the Athenian state. Perhaps Makarios was of this wider thinking group of Hellenes as opposed to mere Greek. It is a possibility worth pondering.

[insan]

Insan you, like other TCs here surprise me with how closely you reflect mainland Greek thinking.

Most Greeks can only perceive Hellenism in terms of the narrow Athens ruled state. Anything else is beyond their mental grasp. That is how the Junta people thought.

But, there are some who perceive Hellenism in a wider context, and for them having two Greek states, with two votes in the UN, the EU, the Council of Europe, is more important than the Athenian state. Perhaps Makarios was of this wider thinking group of Hellenes as opposed to mere Greek. It is a possibility worth pondering.

I'm aware that dimension of Hellenism Nikitas... We witness it everyear at Eurovision song contest... that's nice... you support each other in every field of life... not only a political union but you have a union in every field of life even though you have 2 independent states... as long as your union doesn't do anything detrimental to TC and Turkish interests, there's no problem for TCs and Turks....

I think, after the death of Makarios; in mid-80s after the Greece joined EU the idea of political union with Greece flourished...

[Nikitas]

It flourished, if you can call it that, after Greeks realised that Enosis was over. Somewhere in the mid 80s there was the new tack, Cyprus decides, Greece supports, announced by Andreas Papandreou. It was not a move of mutual support. It was a clever ploy to shirk responsibilities.

It was fascinating to see open anti GC sentiments expressed by mainstream Greek politicians during the run up to the Annan referendum. They were finally getting close to ridding themselves of the Cyprus problem and that pesky Papadopoulos ruined it for them. Now they are broaching the big taboo, a mutually agreed partition. Anything to get rid of that problem, except now there is that damn natural gas thing and the temptations are rising again.

Never underestimate the Athenian state, the biggest enemy of Hellenism. These people could not fathom what Makarios had in mind, their scope was too narrow then, it is just the same now.