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[Viewpoint]

well yeah and you boys spent most of your history under the osmanli. you are more terkish than the tcs in cyprus.

Why don't you love us then?

Its a love hate thing.

[kurupetos]

well yeah and you boys spent most of your history under the osmanli. you are more terkish than the tcs in cyprus.

Why don't you love us then?

Its a love hate thing.

[Nikitas]

"well yeah and you boys spent most of your history under the osmanli. you are more terkish than the tcs in cyprus."

Wrong again. You need to check your facts now and again. Seems like the Osmanlis were on the receiving end of mediterranean "influence" than the other way round. And that might explain how TCs share the thalassaemia problems with GCs and other islanders, while no significant import of central Asian hereditary problems seems to exist. Interesting...

[Lordo]

i think you are confusing transfer of genetic material with superiority. unfortunately whilst runing greece and cyprus some terks have picked up the ugliness and thalamsimia but it does not mean that they had no influence on these lands does it. your average greek has more dna in common with the terks than tcs.

[Nikitas]

Influence as in founding grand institutions of learning? Which ones would these be? Can you point to any grand university founded and flourishing in the greater Ottoman empire? Next door in Europe at that time they were going through the Renaissance, but none of that filtered through to the bimbachis. Like one Lebanese friend puts it, "the Turks made us collectively stupid, they erased what that the Arabs had created". Contrast the advance of the Dodecanese in just thirty years of Italian rule with the preceding centuries of Turkish neglect and you get the idea of the "influence" the Turks had in the territories they occupied and the people they conquered.

The British were in Cyprus for less than a century and they left behind a complete legal system and a viable public administration. There is not one single former Ottoman region that retained either the legal or administrative system used during the Ottoman reign. Even Turkey copied foreign legal codes. So what influence was left by the Ottomans, Omanlis, Seljuks etc.

You do not have to go far, look around you at the kitschness in the north. That should be enough evidence of the "influence"..

[yialousa1971]

Where's the video?

[DT.]

Influence as in founding grand institutions of learning? Which ones would these be? Can you point to any grand university founded and flourishing in the greater Ottoman empire? Next door in Europe at that time they were going through the Renaissance, but none of that filtered through to the bimbachis. Like one Lebanese friend puts it, "the Turks made us collectively stupid, they erased what that the Arabs had created". Contrast the advance of the Dodecanese in just thirty years of Italian rule with the preceding centuries of Turkish neglect and you get the idea of the "influence" the Turks had in the territories they occupied and the people they conquered.

The British were in Cyprus for less than a century and they left behind a complete legal system and a viable public administration. There is not one single former Ottoman region that retained either the legal or administrative system used during the Ottoman reign. Even Turkey copied foreign legal codes. So what influence was left by the Ottomans, Omanlis, Seljuks etc.

You do not have to go far, look around you at the kitschness in the north. That should be enough evidence of the "influence"..

Remember during my student years dating an archaeologist who kept asking me "think of one thing the Ottomans have contributed to the world." All i could come up with was some vague form of ideology that Ataturk left behind that managed to marry Islam with a secular state....and that had nothing to do with the Ottomans.

[repulsewarrior]

...isn't it the Ottomans that refined Bureaucracy, and, Diplomacy, to what it is today?

[Mustiejodu]

Nikita's . History lesson for you . When the ottomans conquered cyprus around 1570 . La la Mustafa pasha ( Sultan Selim 11 right hand man and not a very nice person especially he instigated the massacre of sultan Selims brother Beyazid and his 4 sons so that there were no heires to his throne ) this was the man sent to cyprus to run things . The GC s as a race there after had been systamitically turkified so all the offspring would then have carried these diseases . There has been so much fucking that none of us is pure greek or pure turkish .we are all mixed . When you look at Turks from turkey they look very different to TCs . When you look at greeks from Greece they look very different yo GC s but when you look at GCS and TCs you can't tell the difference apart from a cross dangling down a GCS neck.

[Lordo]

...isn't it the Ottomans that refined Bureaucracy, and, Diplomacy, to what it is today?

that only leaves two cys democracy and hypocrisy given to the world by the greeks. but lets understand that there is no resemblance between their democracy and todays democracy which is where hypocrisy comes in. i know understand what they mean by hypocritical oath.