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[GreekIslandGirl]

That report pains you doesn't it Oracle?

What pains me is how deluded you are. The research (although insubstantial) only proves my point and confirms your complete incomprehension.

[Get Real!]

For those who may be wondering…

The “Greek” language had nothing to do with Greece for there was no Greece when this language was taking shape, but it was an evolution of Phoenician + Cypriot + other influences, that the Eastern Roman Empire eventually adopted.

That is why we speak “Greek” (<- contemporary label) here in Cyprus and certainly not because “Greeks” arrived here!

The Cypriots have a perfect DNA match with people in the Lebanon.

Anthropologists keep telling us that ancient Man made his way through Africa up to the Levant and then onto Cyprus and certainly not the other way round that these fools want us to believe!

The closeness of Cyprus to the Levant makes perfect sense!

The history of the Phoenicians is one of UNISON between the Levant and Cyprus, yet we still have people today driveling on about some guy in a “Greek” boat who came to our shores selling pots and garter belts!

GR, you are very very confused You are confusing a theory about how the Greek ALPHABET was created (borrowing elements from the Phoenician alphabet) with the Greek LANGUAGE which existed long before the Greek Alphabet. Greek is a European language and has nothing to do with the Phoenician language which is a Semitic language similar to Hebrew. The Phoenicians were a civilization less ancient than the Greeks and they came to Cyprus a bit after the Greeks. They settled mostly on the eastern part of the island (Kition). You are also confused about the time of when things happened. The "ancient man that made his way through Africa" is something that happened more than 50.000 years ago. Humans have been inhabiting mainland Europe for at least 40 thousands years... much earlier than the human settlements found in Cyprus. And those prehistoric people were not Greek or Cypriot or English since the concept of ethnicity or nation didn't exist back then. I am not going to waste more time with your nonsense ... but maybe you should educate yourself and stop exhibiting your ignorance

I’m not confused at all…


It went > Phoenician > Cypriot > Greek


Phoenician: Time 1100 BCE to 300 CE
http://www.ancientscripts.com/phoenician.html

Cypriot: Time 1500 BCE to 300 BCE
http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

Greek: Time 800 BCE to Present
http://www.ancientscripts.com/greek.html


Have a look at the similarities of the symbols. Who pinched symbols from whom?


For your info, Phoenica WAS Cyprus!

http://www.riadreviews.com/resources/mo ... omans.html

[Sotos]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

In what way is your comment "similar"? What Klik and Tim posted are facts. What you posted is just intentionally offensive My guess is that she was referred to as "Ottoman" because she wasn't Turkish... maybe she was Greek speaking Muslim.

The 'similar' comment I made yesterday, was the one 'similar' to the one I (me, myself) made today and not 'similar' to what either Klik or Tim posted, otherwise I would have mentioned them by name. My comment was separate to theirs entirely. It is knowingly offensive (nowadays) and an observation of how times change and how acceptable terms at one point in time are no longer acceptable at other times or contexts.

OK ... so yesterday the same message was offensive but today it wasn't?

BTW - what language is "Muslim"?

"BTW" is the ISO 639-3 code for the Butuanon language. They are not "Muslim". Anything else irrelevant you would like to ask?

[Sotos]

For those who may be wondering…

The “Greek” language had nothing to do with Greece for there was no Greece when this language was taking shape, but it was an evolution of Phoenician + Cypriot + other influences, that the Eastern Roman Empire eventually adopted.

That is why we speak “Greek” (<- contemporary label) here in Cyprus and certainly not because “Greeks” arrived here!

The Cypriots have a perfect DNA match with people in the Lebanon.

Anthropologists keep telling us that ancient Man made his way through Africa up to the Levant and then onto Cyprus and certainly not the other way round that these fools want us to believe!

The closeness of Cyprus to the Levant makes perfect sense!

The history of the Phoenicians is one of UNISON between the Levant and Cyprus, yet we still have people today driveling on about some guy in a “Greek” boat who came to our shores selling pots and garter belts!

GR, you are very very confused You are confusing a theory about how the Greek ALPHABET was created (borrowing elements from the Phoenician alphabet) with the Greek LANGUAGE which existed long before the Greek Alphabet. Greek is a European language and has nothing to do with the Phoenician language which is a Semitic language similar to Hebrew. The Phoenicians were a civilization less ancient than the Greeks and they came to Cyprus a bit after the Greeks. They settled mostly on the eastern part of the island (Kition). You are also confused about the time of when things happened. The "ancient man that made his way through Africa" is something that happened more than 50.000 years ago. Humans have been inhabiting mainland Europe for at least 40 thousands years... much earlier than the human settlements found in Cyprus. And those prehistoric people were not Greek or Cypriot or English since the concept of ethnicity or nation didn't exist back then. I am not going to waste more time with your nonsense ... but maybe you should educate yourself and stop exhibiting your ignorance

I’m not confused at all…


It went > Phoenician > Cypriot > Greek


Phoenician: Time 1100 BCE to 300 CE
http://www.ancientscripts.com/phoenician.html

Cypriot: Time 1500 BCE to 300 BCE
http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

Greek: Time 800 BCE to Present
http://www.ancientscripts.com/greek.html


Have a look at the similarities of the symbols. Who pinched symbols from whom?


For your info, Phoenica WAS Cyprus!

http://www.riadreviews.com/resources/mo ... omans.html

Oh yes you are... very confused ... I already pointed you to the facts in my earlier post... but hey ... believe whatever makes you happy

[GreekIslandGirl]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

In what way is your comment "similar"? What Klik and Tim posted are facts. What you posted is just intentionally offensive My guess is that she was referred to as "Ottoman" because she wasn't Turkish... maybe she was Greek speaking Muslim.

The 'similar' comment I made yesterday, was the one 'similar' to the one I (me, myself) made today and not 'similar' to what either Klik or Tim posted, otherwise I would have mentioned them by name. My comment was separate to theirs entirely. It is knowingly offensive (nowadays) and an observation of how times change and how acceptable terms at one point in time are no longer acceptable at other times or contexts.

OK ... so yesterday the same message was offensive but today it wasn't?

BTW - what language is "Muslim"?

"BTW" is the ISO 639-3 code for the Butuanon language. They are not "Muslim". Anything else irrelevant you would like to ask?

Sotos, I explained that certain terms/names are offensive at different points in history/context (for example, the "N" word was still routinely used less than 20 years ago in the UK and now it is taboo). I wanted to make the point about the possible reason for the article-writer discriminating by calling the victim-woman an "Ottoman" and the murderous-man "Turk". I think I made the point yesterday without being offensive to insan (he certainly understood more than you), since after a day, the debate had developed further into politics and my message was completely in context, yet not raised by anyone else. It remains a strong possibility for usage - it was a sign of the times. The offensiveness of the term 'Ottoman' has been blurred over the years but the offensiveness of the word 'Turk' remains whilst they still harass/occupy Cyprus and discriminate against Greeks.

As for your "Muslim" language; I think your English is slipping (not a criticism, just an observation).

[denizaksulu]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

Even the Brits referred to the "now" TCs as Turks up until the 1960's as it was well known that the natives are Greek and that Cyprus is Greek and was due a return to the Hellenic fold - if they could risk leaving this area in peace!

Wakey wakey GiG. Lost your chance in 1974. Stop dreaming. Spend your energy in a free independent Cyprus.
I still love you.

[denizaksulu]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

In what way is your comment "similar"? What Klik and Tim posted are facts. What you posted is just intentionally offensive My guess is that she was referred to as "Ottoman" because she wasn't Turkish... maybe she was Greek speaking Muslim.

The 'similar' comment I made yesterday, was the one 'similar' to the one I (me, myself) made today and not 'similar' to what either Klik or Tim posted, otherwise I would have mentioned them by name. My comment was separate to theirs entirely. It is knowingly offensive (nowadays) and an observation of how times change and how acceptable terms at one point in time are no longer acceptable at other times or contexts.

OK ... so yesterday the same message was offensive but today it wasn't?

BTW - what language is "Muslim"?

"BTW" is the ISO 639-3 code for the Butuanon language. They are not "Muslim". Anything else irrelevant you would like to ask?

Sotos, I explained that certain terms/names are offensive at different points in history/context (for example, the "N" word was still routinely used less than 20 years ago in the UK and now it is taboo). I wanted to make the point about the possible reason for the article-writer discriminating by calling the victim-woman an "Ottoman" and the murderous-man "Turk". I think I made the point yesterday without being offensive to insan (he certainly understood more than you), since after a day, the debate had developed further into politics and my message was completely in context, yet not raised by anyone else. It remains a strong possibility for usage - it was a sign of the times. The offensiveness of the term 'Ottoman' has been blurred over the years but the offensiveness of the word 'Turk' remains whilst they still harass/occupy Cyprus and discriminate against Greeks.

As for your "Muslim" language; I think your English is slipping (not a criticism, just an observation).

I think the muslim girl was a newcomer to Cyprus from the Ottoman domain.

Hi Insan!

[B25]

Perhaps they should have called her a Mongoloid tart. Would that make you all happy?

[insan]

Hi Deniz! Nice to see you around again... I agree with you that most probably she was a new comer to Cyprus from an ex- Ottoman territory...

[insan]

http://books.google.com.cy/books?id=dslYF9LopnMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Christians+and+Muslims+in+Ottoman+Cyprus+and+the+Mediterranean+World,+1571-1640&hl=tr&sa=X&ei=wz4RVJKnIIn_ygOKroAw&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Incase the same link i've posted in one of my previous message doesn't lead you to the book use this link to reach the content...