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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Mustiejodu » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:29 pm

Jerry wrote:
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Mustiejodu wrote:Yet again your wrong about me . What I find is the hypocracy of GCS on this forum . All I read is Turks being degraded on this site . I read racist remarks being made of the Turks from turkey coming into cyprus but at the same time the greek side us full of philipino ,Asians ,Russians ,Polish . I am simply raising the point that there are immigrants on the greek side which is fine but if you keep raising the turkish popoulation issue which has nothing to do with the GCS then I will raise the philipino ,russian,polish,Asian sex drugs issue . The point here is those who live in glass houses should not throw stones


There's a big difference between foreigners coming to work in Cyprus, many on temporary visas, and Immigrants from Turkey who intend to settle on our property and are granted citizenship of the "trnc", but any excuse to bash the Greek Cypriots, eh?[/quote
I live in London where there is the most diverse mixture of cultures who are treated equal and have equal rights . I am British born Tc married to a British born gc . My best friend is British born gc and British born African . The south segregates the ethnic immigrants . On numerous occasions when I speak to the immigrants in the south they tell me how they are not treated equal . It is very similar to the old South Africa . The gc s are racist and this was even discussed at the European Parliament . Famagusta actually has a big influx of African students who mingle with the locals .


African students like tees you mean?
http://www.punchng.com/news/africa/cypr ... committee/

Some GCs are racist as are some TCs no doubt but the "trnc" is a racist state. What chance would I have of buying a property in the north and getting a residency permit? None!


Check it out at ground level like I have that's why what I say is what I see and what immigrants tell me what they experience . What you are telling me is the hurdles of red tape . We are really talking at parallel worlds . You are either oblivious to what you see on the streets or your just plain blind . As they say ignorance is a bliss
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Jerry » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:10 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:Yet again your wrong about me . What I find is the hypocracy of GCS on this forum . All I read is Turks being degraded on this site . I read racist remarks being made of the Turks from turkey coming into cyprus but at the same time the greek side us full of philipino ,Asians ,Russians ,Polish . I am simply raising the point that there are immigrants on the greek side which is fine but if you keep raising the turkish popoulation issue which has nothing to do with the GCS then I will raise the philipino ,russian,polish,Asian sex drugs issue . The point here is those who live in glass houses should not throw stones


There's a big difference between foreigners coming to work in Cyprus, many on temporary visas, and Immigrants from Turkey who intend to settle on our property and are granted citizenship of the "trnc", but any excuse to bash the Greek Cypriots, eh?[/quote
I live in London where there is the most diverse mixture of cultures who are treated equal and have equal rights . I am British born Tc married to a British born gc . My best friend is British born gc and British born African . The south segregates the ethnic immigrants . On numerous occasions when I speak to the immigrants in the south they tell me how they are not treated equal . It is very similar to the old South Africa . The gc s are racist and this was even discussed at the European Parliament . Famagusta actually has a big influx of African students who mingle with the locals .


African students like tees you mean?
http://www.punchng.com/news/africa/cypr ... committee/

Some GCs are racist as are some TCs no doubt but the "trnc" is a racist state. What chance would I have of buying a property in the north and getting a residency permit? None!


Check it out at ground level like I have that's why what I say is what I see and what immigrants tell me what they experience . What you are telling me is the hurdles of red tape . We are really talking at parallel worlds . You are either oblivious to what you see on the streets or your just plain blind . As they say ignorance is a bliss


Ignorant yourself, I am neither oblivious nor blind I simply have not experienced what you claim to have seen furthermore you've got a bloody cheek complaining about GCs individuals being racist when the policy of the pirate state in the north is blatantly racist. And,of course, you have never seen or experienced racism in London have you.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:00 am

Yes, it is true that it is never rosy no matter where you go in Europe or America but the case of North Cyprus is much more difficult and pathetic. Here are reasons why it would be wiser to go to somewhere way better, than going to North Cyprus to work and study. I just completed my studies in North Cyprus, after spending four years of undergraduate studies, I know exactly what I am talking about here.

1. North Cyprus is not a country; it is not recognized as a country by the rest of the world; not by the United Nations or the European Union. Rather, it is a Turkish occupied territory. This is evident by the two flags used in the country; the Turkish flag and the North Cyprus flag. Both flags always stand side by side. North Cyprus relies on Turkey for everything even for soldiers to protect them.

2. The language spoken in North Cyprus is not English but Turkish. So students from Nigeria find it very difficult to adapt and settle down.

3. There are no good jobs. One of the ways through which travel agents deceive young Nigerians to go to North Cyprus, is to lie to them that there are very good jobs waiting for them in North Cyprus, but in truth there are no good jobs for students, not even in the universities (where they would be studying). The Universities offer students jobs in the library and information center with a pay that is less than N20,000 per month. Aside this, the jobs outside the universities are quite pitiful; because they are menial and very difficult jobs like construction, furniture making, bricklaying, painting and for ladies only cleaning jobs. These obviously are not jobs for students who hope to earn some money while studying. Like other students in North Cyprus, I had no other option but to do these jobs and trust me when I say, it was not easy to do them and at the same time go to school. Most times your academic suffer; you come from work, weak as a 'fried plantain' and you can not even open a page of your text book to study because you fall asleep almost immediately. By the way, these jobs are very difficult to find and the language barrier does not help.

4. You can never get a job with your certificate or diploma even after completion of your studies. In my four years here in North Cyprus, I have never seen a black man working in a good or reputable company. They never give foreigners or blacks jobs with their certificates.

4. Even you are able to get a job (a menial job), you get paid peanuts. The money would never be able to pay your school fees. Maybe it could be able to take care of your house rent and other bills but in the end you would be left with next to nothing to save.

5. You are openly cheated or exploited. After getting a job, you get paid in Turkish Lira (the official currency used in North Cyprus). But the irony is that you pay your house rent in pounds or euro. Even your school fees is paid in pounds, euro or dollars and not in the local currency which is much lower than the foreign currencies; thus you are losing money faster than water been poured in a basket. Hence you hardly save any money at the end of the month.

6. There is a high level of racism. This is not only obvious from how you are stared at when you walk on the streets or how you are treated when you go looking for jobs but actually what happens when you start working. Like I said earlier, the only available jobs are very difficult and there is an unwritten law that foreigners never get paid the same amount as citizens (turkish or cypriot), no matter how long you have been living in the country. Thus you and a citizen could be doing the same job but you get paid less than him. On the average, you get paid 50 turkish lira ($22/3,500 naira) per day while a citizen gets paid 100 tl ($45/N7,500) which is double what you earn. Sometimes you may be forced, by the owner or management of the company you work for, to do extra hours but the citizens never do extra hours.

7. Lastly another clear example of racism here in North Cyprus is the fact that a student of Cyprus International University, Gabriel Soriwei, was knocked down by a by a drunken female driver (a citizen). He fell into a coma; his dad came from Nigeria to see him while he was in the hospital. He recovered and was able to speak. But two weeks after his dad left for Nigeria, Gabriel died from a heart attack which was a direct result of the injuries he suffered from the accident. However, it took the efforts a relative of the Soriwei family, who stormed into a conference organized by agents from Cyprus International University who came to Nigeria to get students, before an a condolence message was sent to the family of Gabriel by the authorities of Cyprus International University. More disturbing and annoying, is the fact that the Soriwei family, till date, do not know the lady who knocked and killed their son; they don't even know what she looks like because the North Cyprus government and police refused to reveal the identity of the lady even after several messages from the boy's family that they just want to see her; that they have no intention of pressing charges. How sad...

*Note: If you have hopes of coming to North Cyprus to find a white girl or woman that would open doors of opportunity for you, you are mistaken and you better have a rethink. The turkish or cypriot ladies have no interest in black, more even they are racists, sometimes they even run away from you when you try to talk to them. Also the language barrier does not even encourage you to go out to search for a white girl who could possibly become your girlfriend or wife.


Lastly, if you are still in Nigeria and you intend to go abroad to study and possible work to get a better life for yourself, remove Cyprus from your list of possible countries to go. You would be better served going to a 'European' country like Germany, Spain or Italy where you could find better jobs and get better pay. If you are thinking of going to South Cyprus, also have a rethink because things are even worse there.

http://www.nairaland.com/1902723/reason ... rth-cyprus


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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Demonax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:56 am

The diminishing Tc population is result of....


In no particular order.

1. Turkey
2. Turkish Cypriots' pitiful ‘leadership’.
3.Turkish Cypriots' own delusions and failures.

Trying to blame anyone else just takes away self-responsibility and infantilises TCs as 'poor victims'. They have no-one to blame but themselves.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:42 am

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The diminishing Tc population is result of....


In no particular order.

1. Turkey
2. Turkish Cypriots' pitiful ‘leadership’.
3.Turkish Cypriots' own delusions and failures.

Trying to blame anyone else just takes away self-responsibility and infantilises TCs as 'poor victims'. They have no-one to blame but themselves.


Lift the embargoes and then we can talk, otherwise the blame is also on the GCs shoulders.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Demonax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:18 pm

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Lift the embargoes and then we can talk, otherwise the blame is also on the GCs shoulders.


The international community has imposed sanctions against the Turkish occupied areas. They can't be seen to endorse illegal annexation of sovereign territory. If anything you should be asking for more effective sanctions to end the occupation and thus end the isolation and decline of TCs which is a byproduct of the occupation and illegal puppet regime in the north.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:08 pm

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Lift the embargoes and then we can talk, otherwise the blame is also on the GCs shoulders.


The international community has imposed sanctions against the Turkish occupied areas. They can't be seen to endorse illegal annexation of sovereign territory. If anything you should be asking for more effective sanctions to end the occupation and thus end the isolation and decline of TCs which is a byproduct of the occupation and illegal puppet regime in the north.


On whos say can the direct flight ban be removed? your blooded mindedness will get you nowhere, hasnt the last 51years taught you this?

You are cutting off your nose despite your face, the TCs maybe disappearing but what are you on a larger scale putting in its place? thats what you should worry about, the new generation TCs as I like to call them have no past therefore no affiliations to GCs, nor do they want to unite making your job a thousand times harder. (Not that I believe for one minute that GCs truely want to unite whan they have everything they want.) If you were clever people you would have brought the TCs back into fold by offering a deal that is far better what they have today. But there again you were never very clever to start with.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Demonax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:29 pm

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On whos say can the direct flight ban be removed?


If you really want direct flights to the north you should protest to Turkey. The direct flights ban is the result of Turkey's illegal occupation.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:35 am

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On whos say can the direct flight ban be removed?


If you really want direct flights to the north you should protest to Turkey. The direct flights ban is the result of Turkey's illegal occupation.


More like you GCs stealing our rights...you can harp on all you want about Turkey but she will remain until a solution is found which in the light of your antics for the last 51 years is near on impossible.

Assimilation with GCs vs assimilation with Turks, which do you think the TURKish Cs prefer and have chosen? not rocket science.
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Re: Eu,roc,turkey,Greece are all to blame for deminishing Tc

Postby Demonax » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:39 pm

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Assimilation with GCs vs assimilation with Turks, which do you think the TURKish Cs prefer and have chosen?


Ooh, VP. You're such a tease! You say you want to be our friend if only we would lift the embargoes and prove it. Soon as we say no, you run off to Turkey crying about how those nasty GCs don't love you!

It must be so draining having such a complicated love life! :lol:
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