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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:01 pm

Spoils captured from DAESH by the YPG defence forces in Serekaniye, where they are fighting the head-chopping psychopaths all on their own with no supporting airstrikes:

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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:14 am

Interesting comments to this article on the USA dropping weapons to the Kurds and defying Turkey's demands:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... s-in-syria


In a statement on Sunday night, US Central Command said US C-130 cargo planes made multiple drops of arms and supplies provided by Kurdish authorities in Iraq. It said they were intended to enable continued resistance to Islamic State efforts to take full control of Kobani.

The air drops are almost certain to anger the Turkish government, which has said it would oppose any US arms transfers to the Kurdish rebels in Syria.


Western sentiments finally based on the realisation that "Islamic State"= "Turkish State"
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:40 am

you do talk some drivel, back to the cave.

it is the kurds who will pay the price of this stupidity. americans are going around arming people with a knee-jerk reaction and of course as per usual somebody else pays the price.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:42 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Interesting comments to this article on the USA dropping weapons to the Kurds and defying Turkey's demands:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... s-in-syria


In a statement on Sunday night, US Central Command said US C-130 cargo planes made multiple drops of arms and supplies provided by Kurdish authorities in Iraq. It said they were intended to enable continued resistance to Islamic State efforts to take full control of Kobani.

The air drops are almost certain to anger the Turkish government, which has said it would oppose any US arms transfers to the Kurdish rebels in Syria.


Western sentiments finally based on the realisation that "Islamic State"= "Turkish State"

Spot on, Oracles. :wink:
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:52 pm

Things look good on the Kurdish front now; I wish we could say the same for central/southern Iraq:


Iraq descends into anarchy: Shia militias 'abducting and killing Sunni civilians in revenge for Isis attacks''

Iraq is descending into savage sectarian warfare as government-backed Shia militias kill, torture and hold for ransom any Sunni whom they detain. Isis is notorious for its mass killings of Shia, but retaliation by Shia militiamen means that Iraq is returning to the levels of sectarian slaughter last seen in the Sunni-Shia civil war of 2006-07 when tens of thousands were murdered.

The Shia militias have become the main fighting force of the Baghdad government since the Iraqi army was defeated by Isis when it took northern Iraq in June. According to a detailed Amnesty International report published today, the militias enjoy total immunity in committing war crimes against the Sunni community, often demanding large ransoms but killing their victims even when the money is paid.

The re-emergence of the Shia militias and the failure to rebuild the Iraqi army is torpedoing the US and British policy of supporting a more inclusive and less sectarian government in Baghdad. The aim was to create a government that could reach out to Iraq’s five or six million-strong Sunni community and seek to turn it against Isis. But, since the militias treat all Sunni men as Isis fighters or supporters, the Sunni are left with no choice but to stick with the jihadi militants.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 92838.html

Sadly, DAESH are gaining control of Anbar province thanks to the cowardly acts of Shiite militias that are morally little better than they are.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:49 pm

ISIS commits ‘fatal’ blunders in Kobane battle

Forces loyal to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militant group have committed grave strategic mistakes in their fight to take control of the Syria-Kurdish town of Kobane, an analyst wrote in an opinion article for CNN.

In its fourth week, the battle for Kobane witnessed the fiercest fighting in days overnight when ISIS fighters attacked Kurdish forces with mortars and car bombs, sources in the town and a monitoring group said on Sunday, according to Reuters news agency.

ISIS fired 44 mortars at Kurdish parts of the town on Saturday, some of which fell inside nearby Turkey, according to the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. It said four more were fired on Sunday.

Justin Bronk, a research analyst in the military sciences program at the Royal United Services Institute in London, said ISIS’s strategies are now outdated in the face of different conditions posed in Kobane where Syrian-Kurdish fighters have lured the extremist militants to street battles, making them easy targets for U.S. and Arab warplanes.

In its surge through the territories ISIS now controls in Syria and Iraq, the group employed faced little resistance as its reputation of beheadings and torture preceded it, Bronk wrote.

In Kobane however, Syrian-Kurdish fighters have nowhere to flee as they are restricted by the nearby border with Turkey and the vast desert that surrounds the border town, forcing them into furious battles in the center of the town in effort to keep control of Kobane.

“Despite having surrounded Kobane and conducting aggressive and apparently well-coordinated infiltration attempts from multiple approaches, the sort of street-to-street ‘meat grinder’ that Kobane has become does not play to ISIS’s strengths,” Bronk said.

“Against an enemy with nowhere to retreat to and air support, a numerically limited force such as ISIS that normally relies as much on psychological effects as firepower to take ground faces a tough challenge,” he added.

“This is just as well since on the ground, it is only the bravery of lightly armed Kurdish fighters standing between ISIS and control of the town. Airstrikes are essential but could not keep ISIS out of the town alone,” Bronk explained.

The U.S.-led coalition targeted and destroyed a gas facility in the border town of Kobane, the Mail said citing activist collective Deir el-Zour Free Radio.
Eight men were killed believed to have been tanker drivers working for ISIS, as at least four of their burnt bodies were placed in a mosque near the facility.
Oil facilities in ISIS-controlled areas have been aggressively targeted by coalition airstrikes as they are believed to be a key source of income for the militant group.


http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... obane.html
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:47 am

According to the following recent report (in German), DAESH are launching a major attack on Kobane:

http://www.n-tv.de/politik/IS-Miliz-ric ... 15746.html
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:49 pm

:shock: Oh no! Another American air drop straight into ISIS hands!

"ISIS Video: America’s Air Dropped Weapons Now in Our Hands"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... hands.html

Damn them pesky mistakes!!!

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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:28 am

Get Real! wrote::shock: Oh no! Another American air drop straight into ISIS hands!

"ISIS Video: America’s Air Dropped Weapons Now in Our Hands"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... hands.html

Damn them pesky mistakes!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:


They should have got the RAAF or RAF to do such intricate operations which involve this kind of precision.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:04 am

Paphitis wrote:They should have got the RAAF or RAF to do such intricate operations which involve this kind of precision.

Just give up the stupidity and face reality…

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