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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:47 am

kurupetos wrote:
In Greek “patrios” = father which leads to “fatherland”.

Now let’s get back to more important things like your Mycenaean origins… :lol:

Bravo re mavrolaomene... you are a bit slow but you are learning... :mrgreen:

Credit goes to my wife who is a Greek literature teacher and just a phone call away! :lol:
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby kurupetos » Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:37 am

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
In Greek “patrios” = father which leads to “fatherland”.

Now let’s get back to more important things like your Mycenaean origins… :lol:

Bravo re mavrolaomene... you are a bit slow but you are learning... :mrgreen:

Credit goes to my wife who is a Greek literature teacher and just a phone call away! :lol:

ES was a waste of time. :lol:
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:40 am

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
In Greek “patrios” = father which leads to “fatherland”.

Now let’s get back to more important things like your Mycenaean origins… :lol:

Bravo re mavrolaomene... you are a bit slow but you are learning... :mrgreen:

Credit goes to my wife who is a Greek literature teacher and just a phone call away! :lol:


A "phone call away"? Is she keeping her distance from you?

- Have you told her your theory that her subject-area doesn't exist? :P
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:32 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:A "phone call away"? Is she keeping her distance from you?

Well work keeps us apart a lot even when at home, but that’s what we’ve got intercoms for! :)

- Have you told her your theory that her subject-area doesn't exist? :P

Absolutely… she agrees with most of my theories because they make sense!

I even school her colleagues when she brings them over! :lol:
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby excommo » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:53 am

I have been away from here since Sept. and just read the posting about David Carter's postings in 2009.

I am still not sure about his true feelings as it may be as time passed he learned new information that may have changed his opinions. Regardless I still cherish his book and so happy to have had so much contact with him in our mutual research of our time in Cyprus in the 1950's. Just wish I had been able to met him then or later.

Incidentally, some of us who were stationed with the U.S. Consulate General in Cyprus back then still talk about how much we liked the island and it's people, Greek and Turk. So sad the big problem still remains. With exception of Greece it was my favorite post of all I served in while with the U.S. State Dept.

Regards to all from Redding, Calif. Beautiful country, but so bloody hot in summer, been up to 110 already and still in that range, at least it is with low humidity.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby Nikitas » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:38 pm

Excommo,

enjoy California. But you left me with an open question regarding your take on the American Revolution.

Just an afterthought, do you allow British citizens to hold laments around the Washington monument? Or celebrate the birthday of Cornwallis in Arlington?

Just being sarcastic, I know you will understand.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby excommo » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:45 pm

As a 34 year member of the Sons of the American Revolution and past president of my chapter, I can say if the Brits want to come back and pay tribute to their lost war and to Cornwallis, (Who would not come to surrender his sword at Yorktown, VA and sent a subordinate to officiate for him) and in an expression of our friendship, I would have no objection. Actually, I would enjoy their company and would be pleased to show them around. I use to live in Arlington and know the battlefield at Yorktown having walked all over it.

I do get your message, they like to celebrate many past events in their history.

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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby Mustiejodu » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:14 pm

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It seems that all EOKA was fighting for (knowingly or unknowingly) was to swap foreign hands of Cyprus, and that unfortunately makes it a dishonorable cause.

It is admirable to fight so as to liberate one’s self/country from colonialism, but if the ulterior motive is to pass the slavery onto another “master” then the motive takes on a double evil form.


We are Greek, so how can being free equal citizens of a Greek state, like it is the case with all other Greek islands, be compared with being colonial subjects of a foreign empire? :roll: As always you are talking nonsense. If YOU are not Greek... because you have be brought up abroad and you even have English as your main language, then realize you are an ANOMALY, and NOT representative in any way of the vast majority of Cypriots.


Well actually Sotos you are not free equal citizens of a greek state. You are now under yet again in a community called EU and you have given up your sovereignity to an extent you sold the cyprus pound. Why is there this need to be part of such a failing disfunctional organisation. The TC s are even worse off having to rely on Turkey which to be honest with the leadership they had for the past 15 years they may have boosted their economy and developed so much but have also gone backwards in their caliphate ideologies. This us the best opportunity to settle the issues between your TC brothers that you Luce on this small island and govern your own country not by outside influence . Also Sotos you have not answered my last question about what you meant by native cypriots and who you was referring to as native cypriots ? This question also goes to get real as he keeps stating this.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby Nikitas » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:23 pm

Excommo said:

"I do get your message"

Hardly! What I was getting at is that you revolted against the British, and in the process killed a lot more of them than Cypriots did. In the battle of Saratoga alone three times as many British were killed than in the whole of the Cyprus rebellion. That violent event, the American Revolution, founded your nation, and you remember it fondly, commemorate it with all sorts of monuments and glorify it in your school history books. The revolutionary leader, Washington, became your first president, and other leading figures are revered today as the founding fathers of the USA. Pretty much the same happened in Cyprus.

So your negative take on Cyprus, by the very title of the book you mentioned, Aphrodite's Killers, is peculiar in view of your own history and your recently revealed status as president of your local chapter of the Sons of the American Revolution.

Just imagine the furore if there was a parallel Cypriot organization called the Sons of the EOKA revolution and then you might get the idea.

As for your idea that Americans would welcome groups lamenting the loss of the colonies and expressing such views on American soil and at celebrated landmarks, it shows that either you are a good diplomat employing selective misunderstanding or you really do not have your ear to the ground in the US today. The dismissal of Piers Morgan from CNN after his repeated attacks on the Second Amendment tend to prove that Americans are more protective of their Consitution and their revolutionary roots than you portray them.

My history is a bit rusty but I recall reading about the Revolution, the war of 1812, the behavior of the British during the Civil War and the Monroe Doctrine. It was not until you could bitch slap them (figuratively speaking of course) that you became friends and are referred to as "our cousins across the pond". Maybe there is a lesson for us in there somewhere.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby excommo » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:12 pm

Not many live in the past and it is all water under the bridge and we should live today and for tomorrow.

So there was a British Colony and the locals were in rebellion. What do you think they should have done. Pack up and go home immediately?

It all means zilch now anyway to so many.

If you have a grip about matters now, ask the Turks to get out and be sure to wave them a fond farewell.

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