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[Paphitis]

Excommo as you are new here you are probably not aware of GiG's (greek island girl) ability to rewrite history to fit her own propaganda needs, but believe me her distortions of historic truth are legion, even when it is recent history and documented in black and white.

David made 15 posts here on this forum in 2009. You can see them all here

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I suggest you make up your own mind as to how accurate GiG's impression that he was 'a little remorseful' and he 'corrected his former lies whilst on this forum' when he was posting here actually is rather than take her 'impression' at face value.

I had a lot of contact with David Carter before his sad death. We were even going to meet at one stage but his demise had put an end to that.

I can tell you that he was a very nice person. He served ion Cyprus in the 1950s. He was very much against EOKA, which must be expected or not such a surprise considering the fact that many British Servicemen during the EOKA campaign were killed. I managed to get one concession from him that he understood but he also made it very clear that it was a big mistake according to him. no one can seriously expect any British Officer in the 50s to have a different view than that.

He was not a Turkish supporter and his opinion prior to his death is that the Turkish Military should withdraw.

I was very sad at his passing.

[Paphitis]

I have not read the book but I know the one sided views of the late David Carter.
For your information EOKA was a noble freedom organization that fought for the right of the overwhelming number of Cypriots to determine their own destiny, a principle that all nations deserve. The British imperialists of the time however did not consider us worthy of such a right and called us ... terrorists, just as they called peoples the world over who fought for independence. Bearing in mind that 30.000 Cypriots fought alongside the British fighting the Nazis, it was an absolute travesty of justice to deny us the right to self determination.
I'm proud of the small part that I played in the struggle .

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According to this b*stard we didn't have the right for self-determination and freedom, Milti.

BTW, good post (surprisingly!).

No that is NOT what they thought.

BUT, they do believe what we did was the MOST stupid thing of all, and that these actions DESTROYED the island because you would have had self determination by 1963 without a single bullet fired.

[Paphitis]

Just another side note, during my numerous discussions with David Carter here on this forum and via email, he was made aware of my extensive family connections to EOKA. He knew my feelings about it and he was also very understanding and respectful. He was also extremely friendly, insisted in maintaining contact and wanted to meet but he was on his death bed.

[Get Real!]

In case Sotos missed this late line in my post…

NB: There exists an “Independent Crete” movement going on as we speak for crying out loud and THEY are REAL Greeks!

These Cretans are not CRAZY but HEALTHY-MINDED because it is HEALTHY for Man to ALWAYS strive for independence and I’d be very concerned about the mental wellbeing of a people who prefer “enosis” with some other country to independence!

Do you see the difference between HEALTHY-MINDED people and induced-coerced-bribed-forced ones?

[Oceanside50]

At the very least 18% of Cyprus’ population were TCs that did NOT approve of gifting Cyprus to Greece and I won’t even mention those Armenians, Maronites, and GCs that DID NOT approve of it either and were completely ignored!

So it’s obvious that some of you MISUNDERSTOOD or IGNORED what the COMBINED CYPRUS wanted and thus you failed miserably!

But of course, Greece couldn’t care less whether it was the whole of Cyprus or a portion of Cyprus that she could grab as a base, and that’s why she encouraged your foolish and uneducated forefathers to keep going all the way down the cliff to your deaths!

Let's be honest with ourselves...

I doubt that the same 18 % today would be wholeheartedly for a rebellion against the Turkish army by the Greek cyps. The question is would the fight against the Turkish army be justified, regardless of what slogan is used to unite..?....and if it is what's the difference between fighting the Brits then or the Turks now...

[Get Real!]

For your information EOKA was a noble freedom organization that fought for the right...

I'm proud of the small part that I played in the struggle.

And not long after that you rushed off to London to seek your fortunes instead of Athens!



Hardly a day goes by without reminding me why I have no respect for you Milti...

[repulsewarrior]

According to this b*stard we didn't have the right for self-determination and freedom, Milti.

Gifting Cyprus to Greece would’ve been the OPPOSITE of self determination.

Self determination does NOT mean…

“Having the right to do whatever one likes with a country/territory”

But rather…

“Being in charge of one’s country/territory”

wow, i like that.

...welcome excommo, i am curious, have you read my manifesto thingy, or Kiks BBF Plan?

[excommo]

Have not read Kurupetos items and will before long and we all finished with this dialog which probably belongs on another of the forums. Let me know where to find the two items and will get to them.


Actually this discussion is now none of my business and I was just looking for critiques of the book from all sides, which really opened a hornet's nest. I would love to know the items in David's book that he acknowledged as being bogus information. Would insert them in my book.

What about this current UN plan for a United Cyprus that is being discussed by both sides I see?

[repulsewarrior]

cyprus-solution.html

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cyprus31695.html

...point being there are Bicommunal (and Bizonal) solutions which do not involve destroying the Principal that we can as Human Beings respect each other, and that as Cypriots we can agree that Cyprus has a right to be respected as a country with a History older than that of "Greeks", or "Turks".

[Paphitis]

Carter was a groupie of criminal Turks such as Asil Nadir and Denktash. He wrote a pack of lies some of which he had the decency to correct after being set right here on this forum and just before he died. He probably regretted publishing so much propaganda for the benefit of the Turks, to destroy our island, and in dealings with him through Cyprus Forum (he was a member briefly) I found him a little remorseful for his evil ways but sadly he did not have enough time to set the record straight before the devil took him away.

Only I got to him in a very respectful manner.

I had a lot of dealings with him off forum and found him to be a very nice character. Much much nicer than you and many more on this forum and a lot smarter to boot!

Sorry, but you commenting about his character and integrity is like being judged by a filthy cockroach!