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EOKA book, a question

Postby excommo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:18 pm

The late David Carter of Essex did a large book on the subject called "Aphroditi's Killers". It was released just after his death from cancer in 2010. I corresponded with David for some time prior to his death on matters of mutual interest about Cyprus during our time on the island in the 50's at the height of the troubles. He was an army officer and I was at the then U.
S. Consulate General in Nicosia. Needless to say I observed/heard many of the bombings, gunfire, and witnessed one shooting of a Brit policeman on his Lambretta on the walled city frontage road near Kyrenia Gate in Nicosia 1956-7? One consulate officer was killed and 5 consulate friends of mine wounded at the Little Soho bombing inside the walled city in June 1956. We were all forbidden to enter the walls and some of us did anyway. i was also guility as I had a girl friend who lived just inside the Paphos Gate.

I have shared the book with Greeks and some others here In Calif., They all commented on how much they found it of great interest. I wonder now if anyone here has read it?

I would be interested in comments from Brits, GC and TC individuals concerning their opinion of the book.

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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:40 pm

I have not read the book but I know the one sided views of the late David Carter.
For your information EOKA was a noble freedom organization that fought for the right of the overwhelming number of Cypriots to determine their own destiny, a principle that all nations deserve. The British imperialists of the time however did not consider us worthy of such a right and called us ... terrorists, just as they called peoples the world over who fought for independence. Bearing in mind that 30.000 Cypriots fought alongside the British fighting the Nazis, it was an absolute travesty of justice to deny us the right to self determination.
I'm proud of the small part that I played in the struggle .

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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:01 pm

Carter was a groupie of criminal Turks such as Asil Nadir and Denktash. He wrote a pack of lies some of which he had the decency to correct after being set right here on this forum and just before he died. He probably regretted publishing so much propaganda for the benefit of the Turks, to destroy our island, and in dealings with him through Cyprus Forum (he was a member briefly) I found him a little remorseful for his evil ways but sadly he did not have enough time to set the record straight before the devil took him away.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby erolz66 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:28 pm

Excommo as you are new here you are probably not aware of GiG's (greek island girl) ability to rewrite history to fit her own propaganda needs, but believe me her distortions of historic truth are legion, even when it is recent history and documented in black and white.

David made 15 posts here on this forum in 2009. You can see them all here

search.php?author_id=41769&sr=posts

I suggest you make up your own mind as to how accurate GiG's impression that he was 'a little remorseful' and he 'corrected his former lies whilst on this forum' when he was posting here actually is rather than take her 'impression' at face value.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby excommo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:21 pm

Kudos to erolz66 for his post and will read it all later, I hope a history degree of some sort will then be forthcoming. LOL

I do not want to get into an argument with anyone on any side in this subject. I know all too well from my time on the island and on this site for years (as a reader, rarely a poster) that there are three sides to this matter and they are all miles apart.

I will come back after some days when I have read fully the current and forthcoming postings, but I will cast no stones. Those on this site are well able to do so already with any additional help.


I will say now that the book was from only one side and others should realize that it is from the research and experiences of the author. It does appear David was right on so far in my overall understanding at this time. I will not comment on anyone's position as it would just be a waste of everyones time IMHO.

I should have known I was opening up a can of worms to broach this political subject.



Regards to all.
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:29 pm

Erolz the Wurlitzer strikes again to ignore the fact that the Turks are most famed for rewriting history (by whom he has been taught well), renaming places and removing ethnic groups to replace with their own.

After some PM exchanges with David Carter he corrected a number of "facts" on his website and went some way to admitting he had made up his own figures and did not in fact use MoD data for his sources. I thanked him after he actually made some amends on the forum ...

The colonial Brits that David Carter represented are hated the world over and thankfully such anachronists are in the minority now (and this is where the OP comes in - famed for 'opening cans of worms' in "all innocence" - :roll: :roll: :roll: ).
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:52 pm

miltiades wrote:I have not read the book but I know the one sided views of the late David Carter.
For your information EOKA was a noble freedom organization that fought for the right of the overwhelming number of Cypriots to determine their own destiny, a principle that all nations deserve. The British imperialists of the time however did not consider us worthy of such a right and called us ... terrorists, just as they called peoples the world over who fought for independence. Bearing in mind that 30.000 Cypriots fought alongside the British fighting the Nazis, it was an absolute travesty of justice to deny us the right to self determination.
I'm proud of the small part that I played in the struggle .

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According to this b*stard we didn't have the right for self-determination and freedom, Milti. :x

BTW, good post (surprisingly!). :D
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:55 pm

kurupetos wrote:According to this b*stard we didn't have the right for self-determination and freedom, Milti. :x

Gifting Cyprus to Greece would’ve been the OPPOSITE of self determination. :lol:

Self determination does NOT mean…

“Having the right to do whatever one likes with a country/territory”

But rather…

“Being in charge of one’s country/territory”

:lol:
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:According to this b*stard we didn't have the right for self-determination and freedom, Milti. :x

Gifting Cyprus to Greece would’ve been the OPPOSITE of self determination. :lol:

Bollocks. The majority asked for union with Greece, which was the obvious demand, as Cypriots were/are Greeks. The dirty Brits of course didn't allow this, because of their divide and rule plans.

If Cyprus was part of Greece, the Turks wouldn't dare to invade in 1974. :wink:
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Re: EOKA book, a question

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:“Being in charge of one’s country/territory”

:lol:

That's only true for the non-Greeks of Cyprus, like yourself. :lol:
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