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No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:31 am

There’s no such thing as “Greek ethnicity” because Greece is just a BABY of a country of some 200 odd years. Prior to the early 1800s no such thing as “Greece” EVER existed.

Cyprus on the other hand being an island has always had natural FIXED BORDERS that can NEVER be changed and thus always been a nation. Anyone born in Cyprus can claim to be ethnically Cypriot without any doubt of this location.

Greece however may disappear from the map of Europe at any time in the future but not so with Cyprus. Cyprus will remain Cyprus FOREVER.

That’s using COMMON SENSE to understand reality instead of climbing on the bandwagon of temporary Greek propagandist fools.

Watch this video to open your eyes to how VOLATILE borders are…



Even the once mighty Britain is on the verge of breakup as we speak let alone Greece! :roll:
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:34 pm

Today the nation state is the main institution in international law, and no, there is no ethnic, ie genetic trait that could define any nation. National cohesion has nothing to do with genes or ethnicity. Greece is probably one of the most cohesive nations in the world with 98 per cent of the population sharing the same religion, culture and language

What you say above goes a lot more for Turkey, created in 1923, than any other nation in the vicinity. If ethnicity were a criterion there would be no Turkey today. But there is because the people who live there have a lot to gain from its continued existence and a lot to lose if it breaks up, despite it having a 20 per cent Kurdish population.

The test of ethnic bonds is probably more reliably found when Greeks form communities outside Greece. That is where these bonds are tested and they seem to hold up pretty well despite the pressures from host cultures.
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Sotos » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:39 pm

Get Real making a fool of himself again. Get Real, not only you don't have common sense, you are also an uneducated fool who apparently doesn't know about the Greek civilization which is 1000s of years old and one of the greatest that ever existed. You also don't seem to know what ethnicity means. You are helpless :(
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:58 am

Given that “ethnicity” comes from the word ETHNOS or nation if you prefer, and European nations don’t seem to last more than a few hundred years before borders are shifted, labels are rebranded, and populations readjusted, then “ethnicity” is nothing more than a man-made tool serving temporary political interests.
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:32 pm

Some examples of the volatility of man-made borders and entities on mainlands...

East Germany, 1949-1990
Czechoslovakia, 1918-1992
Yugoslavia, 1918-1992
Austro-Hungary, 1867-1918
Tibet, 1913-1951
South Vietnam, 1955-1975
United Arab Republic, 1958-1971
Ottoman Empire, 1299-1922
Sikkim, 8th century CE-1975
USSR 1922-1991
United States of the Ionian Islands, 1815–1864
kingdom of Two Sicilies, 1816–1860
Kingdom of Sardinia 1720–1861
Kingdom of Prussia 1701–1867
Cretan State 1898–1913
Kingdom of Greece 1832–1924, 1935–1941, 1944–1973 (3 major adjustments)


So whatever happened to those who once claimed to be “ethnic Prussians”? :?

Whatever happened to “ethnic Yugoslavs”? :?

Whatever happened to “ethnic Czechoslovakians”? :?

Down the drain! :lol: It was all in their heads… quite LITERALLY!
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:45 pm

But Sotos, adds a new absurd dimension to this volatility… :)

He has taken a MYTH of some other people’s fabricated volatility from the past… (and when we say past we’re talking THOUSANDS of years), and has attached their fairytale to his identity today… in the 21st century!

:lol: :lol: :lol:


So he is saying… THOSE are my relatives!

You know those ones in that myth who supposedly arrived here in a boat 3,000 years ago?

Yup! They’re the ones I can relate to! :lol:
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Sotos » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:26 pm

GR, you must be the most foolish person that ever posted in this forum :lol: The borders of a country is one thing, the ethnicity of people is a different thing. There were never any "ethnic Czechoslovakians", it has always been Czechs and Slovaks and Czechoslovakia was the country of those two ethnic groups, hence its name. Similarly Yugoslavia was initially called "Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes".

Cyprus:
Nationality: Cypriot
Ethnic groups: Greek 77%, Turkish 18%, other 5% (2001)

USA:
Nationality: American
Ethnic groups: white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61%

Germany:
Nationality: German
Ethnic groups: German 91.5%, Turkish 2.4%, other 6.1% (made up largely of Greek, Italian, Polish, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish)

Switzerland:
Nationality: Swiss
Ethnic groups: German 65%, French 18%, Italian 10%, Romansch 1%, other 6%

Belgium:
Nationality: Belgian
Ethnic groups: Fleming 58%, Walloon 31%, mixed or other 11%

India:
Nationality: Indian
Ethnic groups: Indo-Aryan 72%, Dravidian 25%, Mongoloid and other 3% (2000)
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Sotos » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:46 pm

According to GRs "common sense" (i.e. the common sense of a retard) everybody that lived in a territory under British rule had a "British ethnicity" (something that doesn't exist) or everybody that was under the Ottomans had an "Ottoman ethnicity" (something that didn't exist either). And if a new country was declared... say Turkey in 1923, it meant that ALL those people who lived within the borders of the newly established Turkey would turn from one day to the next from being "ethnic Ottomans" to being "Ethnic Turks" :roll: GR.... how retarded can you be to believe such thing and not to understand that... for example... in Anatolia there were Greeks and Kurds and Armenians etc ... and their ethnicity did NOT change based on any border?!!
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:48 pm

So are you claiming to be “ethnically Mycenaean” Sotos?

That is… identification with Mycenaeans via (1) social, (2) cultural, (3) religious, (4) linguistic, and (5) ancestral connections?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: No such thing as “Greek ethnicity”

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:55 pm

Please take your time and be careful before answering this question Sotos… :lol:

It’s a tricky one and you MAY call a friend or consult the audience.

Your time begins now! Tick tick tick tick tick…
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