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Re: the talks have ended

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:48 am

Lordo wrote:it is this mentality that brought us here today. be thankful you will get exactly what you deserve. partition.

Only if you let me partition you first, cuzigulli. :mrgreen:
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Its an excuse all the same, the GCs are not interested in any form of sharing, time to stop lieing to the world and state clarly that you demand a GC unitary state with TCs reduced to minority status.


Sorry, the President made it very clear that there will be no negotiations whilst Turkey Engages in Gunboat Diplomacy within the RoC's EEZ! There is nothing to discuss and no country in their right made would tolerate this escalation.


We are protecting our interests, looks like you have bitten off more than you can chew things will start to get more and more difficult for all parties concerned.


I don't think so.

You don't have any interests legally. The RoC does and so do the oil firms from US, Iraeli, Utaly, Russia and France which have signed deals with the RoC.

Good luck with that!

For us, it's not all that difficult at all. But for you, the negotiations have ceased.


The negotiations were going newhere we all know this because the GCs were not genuine about finding a solution, they have everything they want. As for the gas find the general mindset in the north and Turkey is if you do not give us our rights we will take them, cant get simplier than that.
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby B25 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:55 pm

"Turkey is if you do not give us our rights we will take them, cant get simplier than that."

Oh dear, more threats, and you expect us to sit and negotiate with this gun to our heads, I'd rather take my chances.
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:04 pm

B25 wrote:"Turkey is if you do not give us our rights we will take them, cant get simplier than that."

Oh dear, more threats, and you expect us to sit and negotiate with this gun to our heads, I'd rather take my chances.

it will not be guns to your heads dear boy but there will be guns alright. that is how losers negotiate. next time try to win one and then you can hold the gun asshole.
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Its an excuse all the same, the GCs are not interested in any form of sharing, time to stop lieing to the world and state clarly that you demand a GC unitary state with TCs reduced to minority status.


Sorry, the President made it very clear that there will be no negotiations whilst Turkey Engages in Gunboat Diplomacy within the RoC's EEZ! There is nothing to discuss and no country in their right made would tolerate this escalation.


We are protecting our interests, looks like you have bitten off more than you can chew things will start to get more and more difficult for all parties concerned.


I don't think so.

You don't have any interests legally. The RoC does and so do the oil firms from US, Iraeli, Utaly, Russia and France which have signed deals with the RoC.

Good luck with that!

For us, it's not all that difficult at all. But for you, the negotiations have ceased.


The negotiations were going newhere we all know this because the GCs were not genuine about finding a solution, they have everything they want. As for the gas find the general mindset in the north and Turkey is if you do not give us our rights we will take them, cant get simplier than that.


So the President was justified withdrawing from the negotiations.

No worries. We have withdrawn, and you can take your rights (supported by international law I presume) by taking it up with the Russians, Americans, Israelis and Italians by sinking their ships.

Good luck.
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:31 pm

B25 wrote:"Turkey is if you do not give us our rights we will take them, cant get simplier than that."

Oh dear, more threats, and you expect us to sit and negotiate with this gun to our heads, I'd rather take my chances.


...indeed, Turkey seems small, having to hide behind its puppet, the so called, "TRNC". it is hard to understand that while half the population in the occupied north supports the island as an island, the other half hold the Agenda, because they feel it "belongs" to them. we can see the results of this behaviour in the south, (as well) where it is hard to ignore an elite, who having exploited these same sentiments, have lead the "Greeks" more often to ruin than once.

if Turkey were to recognise the existence of Cyprus, as a State, a country no different to itself, (and to act as its Guarantor,) it could demand, as well, (within it) the existence of an equal to the Turkish Constituency, a Greek Constituency; but of course, Cyprus may just thrive under a BBF where the Flag of Cyprus flies higher than any of the rest, which would beg the question, why not a Turkic Constituency in Turkey?
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:15 pm

you see rw you are showing lack of understanding of realities in cyprus. up till 1983, what did we have. gcs took control of roc as groc in 1963. terkey recognised the roc in 1960. this remained in place till 1983, despite what had happened in 63/64, 67, and 74. all this time all the tcs got out of it was bolckades, enclaving and embargoes. to suggest that perhaps if terkey recognised groc as roc that in some it would help just shows lack of understanding of average gc stupidity. its only when embargoes were implemented on the trnc in 1983 after the declration of udi that terkey un-recognised groc as what she is bloody groc. and bloody groc it shall remain. tyerkey demanding anything for the tcs does not work becasue of the way un works. any country who has pimp at the whore house has the protection of the house. groc is such a slut and she has two pimps which help her in the whore house. until the whore house is democricised and the power of the five permanent pimps are totally removed, the strife for the poor countries especially the muslim ones will continue. if the beheadings are abhorrent now, they will not be in the future. they will find more abhorrent ways to attack the pimps.

have a nice evening you all, you hear.
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:00 am

...now that the Gaz has been linked to the talks, it is a good time (for Turkey) to consider what is right. if there is a Cyprus, as there is a Turkey, resources are neither "Turkic", or "Kurd", if you will; Turkey can insist that an equal is created to the Turkish Constituency it sustains, better still if it is Turkey that stands up for what is the International view, (and Law), that Cyprus exists, above all this exclusivity (Constituencies), call it Liberty, there is a Republic, and under it, as Human beings we (as in the Citizens of the Country where within these Constituencies exist) stand, as Cypriots, to defend the Freedom this notion represents.

...never mind, i say, what Turkey wants, or the "Greeks", or the "Turks", i remember that at their hands Cypriots died for no good reason, it seems. it was no different then, it should be no different now, what is right is right, and this should not exclude Cyprus, or Cypriots, in appeasing those who for their own reason would tear it apart to make it disappear; Turkey would do well in demonstrating this commitment to the Principals of International Law, and the Sovereignty a Republic, like her own, represents. frankly, without this respect, Turkey risks being torn apart herself.

Lordo, maybe "you" will drill, or leave Turkey to drill, in any case; when oil or gaz is found, as in the south, in large enough quantities, then it will represent a bargaining chip. unless Turkey knows something the others who have invested in this venture do not, she has a very long way to catch up.
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:28 am

Repulse do the TCs have rights under the agreements signed in 1963 when the "RoC" was formed? do the GCs claim that the "RoC" is in existence and functioning? then why are you trying to deny me as a TC my rights? You cannot claim one thing and do another, if you recognize the TRNC then we have absolutely no rights over the gas find, its all belongs to the "RoC" not the TRNC. Now do you get it?
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Re: the talks have ended

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:36 am

The negotiations were going newhere we all know this because the GCs were not genuine about finding a solution, they have everything they want. As for the gas find the general mindset in the north and Turkey is if you do not give us our rights we will take them, cant get simplier than that.

So the President was justified withdrawing from the negotiations.

No worries. We have withdrawn, and you can take your rights (supported by international law I presume) by taking it up with the Russians, Americans, Israelis and Italians by sinking their ships.

Good luck.


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