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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:26 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:Gents why do you all talk of war like its normal topic. I don't care if turkey has a powerfull army or the GC s have eu and egypt and Israel and Greece backing them . It's all bull shit. This issue needs to be dealt with at a domestic level . GC s need to stop brokering deals with other countries putting more fuel into the flames and turkey needs to stop this oil exploration bull shit . There is one factor the GCS need to realise is they have the fate of cyprus in their hands now . What decision they make will determine the course in how history will be written. The more they keep away from talks with TCs the more fuel they are putting into the fire . I believe turkey should pull back to test the GCS on what action they will take . They should call their bluff . The GCS don't want a resolution . They have a bigger plan like they did in 1963 which led to 1974 hence why turkey over reacts this way but they don't need to react this way .

You need a reality check because the RoC is the only recognized government of Cyprus.

Your people are just a minority group of Ottoman remnants who became breakaway separatists with the aid of Turkey.

Without Turkey you would capitulate overnight and with Turkey you’re stuck in limbo if the past 40 years is anything to go by.

The bottom line is that either way you don’t stand a chance as a separate entity and neither do you stand a chance of attaining any power within the RoC.

Turkey’s interferences are nothing but a delay of the inevitable.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:Gents why do you all talk of war like its normal topic. I don't care if turkey has a powerfull army or the GC s have eu and egypt and Israel and Greece backing them . It's all bull shit. This issue needs to be dealt with at a domestic level . GC s need to stop brokering deals with other countries putting more fuel into the flames and turkey needs to stop this oil exploration bull shit . There is one factor the GCS need to realise is they have the fate of cyprus in their hands now . What decision they make will determine the course in how history will be written. The more they keep away from talks with TCs the more fuel they are putting into the fire . I believe turkey should pull back to test the GCS on what action they will take . They should call their bluff . The GCS don't want a resolution . They have a bigger plan like they did in 1963 which led to 1974 hence why turkey over reacts this way but they don't need to react this way .

You need a reality check because the RoC is the only recognized government of Cyprus.

Your people are just a minority group of Ottoman remnants who became breakaway separatists with the aid of Turkey.

Without Turkey you would capitulate overnight and with Turkey you’re stuck in limbo if the past 40 years is anything to go by.

The bottom line is that either way you don’t stand a chance as a separate entity and neither do you stand a chance of attaining any power within the RoC.

Turkey’s interferences are nothing but a delay of the inevitable.


I agree musti it is all BS, Therefor, the best thing is for Turkey to withdraw her military from Cyprus and leave Cyprus alone.

What happens next, a lot of people north of the Green line will lose ownership of their stolen property. They will start paying rent to the original owner and taxes to the RoC. Eventually, a lot of people north of the green line will go back to Turkey.

Whoever is eligible to stay in Cyprus will accept democracy, a one man one vote system or they will get ignored, ostracized from society and their life will become difficult. If they try to use force to force undemocratic principles on the rest of the population they will get annihilated.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:47 pm

Mustiejodu wrote:Gents why do you all talk of war like its normal topic. I don't care if turkey has a powerfull army or the GC s have eu and egypt and Israel and Greece backing them . It's all bull shit. This issue needs to be dealt with at a domestic level . GC s need to stop brokering deals with other countries putting more fuel into the flames and turkey needs to stop this oil exploration bull shit . There is one factor the GCS need to realise is they have the fate of cyprus in their hands now . What decision they make will determine the course in how history will be written. The more they keep away from talks with TCs the more fuel they are putting into the fire . I believe turkey should pull back to test the GCS on what action they will take . They should call their bluff . The GCS don't want a resolution . They have a bigger plan like they did in 1963 which led to 1974 hence why turkey over reacts this way but they don't need to react this way .


...Barbaros will withdraw with the end of the NAVTEX i suppose, at least she will move on to waters a little more north, while in Greece, Turkey will offer something sweet, perhaps go so far as to try and settle with Greece, Cyprus of course being part of that deal. the Problem for Turkey is un-winnable, unless she can break the isolation that has resulted from her own actions. furthermore, i think the success of the Barbaros is yet to be determined, and for Turkey the important work is yet to come, beside the coasts of Cyprus (and Lebanon) she will open the territories she explores off the coast of Syria too, Turkey's "Continental Shelf" is much much bigger if Cyprus' existence is unrecognised.

...indeed, all it takes is for Eroglu to stand with the Flag of Cyprus when he asks for "his" share. what is clear is that Cypriots must make the differentiation between their being Individuals, and their being Persons.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Nikitas » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:00 pm

Turks cannot get it through their thick bazaar skulls that Greece does NOT control Cyprus. It is inconceivable to them that the "mother country" is not in charge and that GCs actually can and do govern themselves.

I just realised that it is not only arrogance, it is sheer knuckleadedness. They assume that because they have bulldozed the TCs and extinguished any resemblance of a national identity in them, the same has happened to the GCs. They apparently have no idea of the cultural difference between GCs and Greeks, and obviously they have no intelligence analysts to tell them what is what.

In this idiot meeting in Athens Davut will ask the Greeks to order the Cypriots to scratch the gas project.

However, the only thing we are going to scratch is our spheres.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Lordo » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:39 pm

since 1963 the man in charge of gc national guard has been greek from greece. any ideas why, is there not a single gc that can do the job. you can a defence minister but not be in charge of the army.

nikitas you is a one shleepy sheepriot. gavole and i thought you had some sense. greece not controling cyprus indeed. its the best laugh i have had for ages. thanks, it is appreciated.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:50 am

Maximus wrote:
What happens next, a lot of people north of the Green line will lose ownership of their stolen property. They will start paying rent to the original owner and taxes to the RoC. Eventually, a lot of people north of the green line will go back to Turkey.



There's the retirement plan sorted :roll:
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby kurupetos » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:23 am

Lordo wrote:since 1963 the man in charge of gc national guard has been greek from greece. any ideas why, is there not a single gc that can do the job. you can a defence minister but not be in charge of the army.

nikitas you is a one shleepy sheepriot. gavole and i thought you had some sense. greece not controling cyprus indeed. its the best laugh i have had for ages. thanks, it is appreciated.

Greek from Greece or Greek from Cyprus doesn't make much of a difference, cockroach. :mrgreen:
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Nikitas » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:47 pm

Yes, the chief of the national guard is a mainlander, but there are very senior Cypriot officers there too. How many TC lieutenant generals and brigadiers are there in the TC equivalent?

Does the police take orders from the TURKISH army chief? How many mainland Turks in the civil service? How many Greeks in the RoC civils service? None! There has never been a single mainland adviser to a RoC president, while almost all trunc chiefs are surrounded by Turks, like the notorious Soysal. How many mainlander get RoC nationality? Only those that marry Cypriots and live continuously in Cyprus for a minimum of three years, which is the same non discriminatory rule for all foreigners, no special rules for Greeks.

Your prejudice is blinding you to the facts. RoC has become a mainstream mature nation with functioning institutions while you are getting further and further away from that with every passing day. The EU course of the RoC proves it. It is one of the lowest ranking EU nations in violations of EU rules even when compared to traditional western democracies.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:20 pm

nigitagi you really are an asshole. trnc is not a recognised country. you cannot compare it. how many countries do you know that allow such stupidity and why such stupidity. just explain it, for what reason can they do not appoint a cypriot to this post.
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Re: Barbaros succesful

Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:21 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:since 1963 the man in charge of gc national guard has been greek from greece. any ideas why, is there not a single gc that can do the job. you can a defence minister but not be in charge of the army.

nikitas you is a one shleepy sheepriot. gavole and i thought you had some sense. greece not controling cyprus indeed. its the best laugh i have had for ages. thanks, it is appreciated.

Greek from Greece or Greek from Cyprus doesn't make much of a difference, cockroach. :mrgreen:

rekse bodji reh tsillargazmeno kserodjehalo.
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