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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:31 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:Where are the mass graves? Keep in mind the mentioned body count of 5721500.

Let's say it happened over 3,5 years makes a pile of 4400 bodies every day, Monday through Sunday. Let's be generous and say the Nazis managed to cramp five bodies into a pile of one square meter (i don't believe in crematorium furnaces for the whole lot; Nazis were not fighting this war fearing they had to 'hide the evidence' - it would be far more rational (quick and easy) to dump the bodies [which is what happens everywhere else where mass-killings have taken place]).

All together there should be a body mass of 1144300 sq.m.

I do not deny that atrocities happened under the Nazis. Still I want to know where a fraction of these mass graves can be found.


weren't bodies burned after they were gassed?
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:19 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:weren't bodies burned after they were gassed?


Have a look at the video around 15:00. Aerial photos from a time when killings allegedly were going on non-stop showed no signs of smoke. You would need a giant factory to (kill and) get rid of 4-5000 bodies a day. Do you believe the Nazis were so afraid of being caught red-handed that they stopped cremating whenever hostile airplanes where in the area?
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:30 pm

It’s not our problem to prove the holocaust or the severity thereof, so unless you’re a Jew you should come right out and say so before you post because I can’t imagine why anyone else would give a shit... especially at a time when Jews are doing nothing but murdering Palestinians 24/7.

Secondly, Sotos raised the only interesting issue when he said…

Sotos wrote:I think the question is WHY there was so much hate against the Jews? Pure racism... or did the Jews act in a way that made others hate them? Because it was not just the Nazis... many others hate the Jews. Is it just because of historical reasons... what happened with Jesus 2000 years ago?


Indeed, betraying and crucifying Jesus is a 2000 year old gripe held against Jews by Christians, but Adolf Hitler also explains the more contemporary issues against Jews in “Mein Kampf” (chapters 2 and 3 I think) with regards to the Zionist agenda which he had discovered to his horror, and which I’ve posted before…

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:01 am

Get Real! wrote:It’s not our problem to prove the holocaust or the severity thereof, so unless you’re a Jew you should come right out and say so before you post because I can’t imagine why anyone else would give a shit... especially at a time when Jews are doing nothing but murdering Palestinians 24/7.

Secondly, Sotos raised the only interesting issue when he said…

Sotos wrote:I think the question is WHY there was so much hate against the Jews? Pure racism... or did the Jews act in a way that made others hate them? Because it was not just the Nazis... many others hate the Jews. Is it just because of historical reasons... what happened with Jesus 2000 years ago?


Indeed, betraying and crucifying Jesus is a 2000 year old gripe held against Jews by Christians, but Adolf Hitler also explains the more contemporary issues against Jews in “Mein Kampf” (chapters 2 and 3 I think) with regards to the Zionist agenda which he had discovered to his horror, and which I’ve posted before…

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm


Disagree!

It is our problem whenever such cruelty occurs and on such a scale as the Holocaust and Armenian Genocide.

These events do not need proving as they are historical fact backed up by numerous sources such as confiscated Nazi Documents, the sites of extermination, NAZI testimonies at Nurenburg, eyewitness accounts from surviving Jews and other POWs from other countries (mainly Poles and Russians).

There is absolutely no gripe or reason which permits such crimes against humanity. I do not know of a single Jew responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and since you are so Gid fearing, you should know that it was God's will to absolve humankind of all its sins.

Further to this, the Zionist agenda for as merely a Nationalist Movement with its ultimate agenda of their return to the Holy City of Jerusalem which they consider to be their homeland.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:24 am

Paphitis wrote:It is our problem whenever such cruelty occurs and on such a scale as the Holocaust and Armenian Genocide.

You should put your actions where your mouth is because I don’t ever recall you saying anything in support of the Palestinians who recently had some 2,500 people murdered and a further 3,500 odd maimed by the criminal Israelis! :roll: :lol:

These events do not need proving as.....

For a Cypriot it’s what we call a "don’t care situation" so spare me any details because I care as much about the “holocaust” as they care about Palestinians… and that says a lot! :wink:
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:It is our problem whenever such cruelty occurs and on such a scale as the Holocaust and Armenian Genocide.

You should put your actions where your mouth is because I don’t ever recall you saying anything in support of the Palestinians who recently had some 2,500 people murdered and a further 3,500 odd maimed by the criminal Israelis! :roll: :lol:

These events do not need proving as.....

For a Cypriot it’s what we call a "don’t care situation" so spare me any details because I care as much about the “holocaust” as they care about Palestinians… and that says a lot! :wink:


That's all made up rubbish by you.

I have said many things in support of the Palestinians. What I do not support is HAMAS and their constant rocket attacks against Israel resulting in a lot more suffering.

I also support a 2 State Solution.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:09 am

Sotos wrote:The attempted genocide against the Jews by the Nazis is undeniable. I think the question is WHY there was so much hate against the Jews? Pure racism... or did the Jews act in a way that made others hate them? Because it was not just the Nazis... many others hate the Jews. Is it just because of historical reasons... what happened with Jesus 2000 years ago? :shock: Is it maybe envy because the Jews stick together and often manage to get rich? Or maybe just because they are a different religion?


If you look at the History of the Jews they have been the victims of targetted persecution as a religious/ethnic group in many places in Europe for much of the past 1600 years. It was not just the Hellenes that suffered persecution at the hands of Christians but starting under Constantine 1 there were a number of restrictions placed on Jews, resulting in segregation.
Then there was the collective blame for killing Jesus - first vocalised in 167 and then expanded to blame all Jews for all time. Then there were the blood libels, dating from First or second century AD that Jews sacrificed Greeks and/or Christian Children. That is in fact contrary to Judaic teaching , according to both Christian and Judaic versions of the old testament since the alleged time of Abraham, often used an excuse for slaughter by Christians, but how perverse, that so-called Christians do to the Jews, ie Kill them, what the falsely blame the Jews for doing.

The blood libels really got going in later medieval times in England from 1141 and France 1171, but this appears to be a part of growing anti semitism with pogroms and massacres in particular from the late 11th Century, including major events in the Rhinelands in 1096 and in France.

They were blamed for spreading the black death - another excuse to murder Jews. They were expelled from many countries, mostly simply because they were Jews

Restrictions on Jews owning land or property and engaging in some trades basically forced them into money-lending and later banking - these were forbidden to Christians - and the picture we have of Jews is probably largely attributable to how Europeans treated the Jews, in particular from about 900 years ago, attitudes which resulted in Holocaust , which attitudes Kuruptos and GR perpetuate even today.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:23 am

The things I admire about the Jews are their ability to adapt to difficult conditions such as persecution and manage to continue with their old culture and religion against all odds as well as survive!
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Garavnoss » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:26 am

Like everything else associated with the Jews, the Holocaust is a handy tool for them to excuse their behaviour, whether it is fact or fiction, there is no doubt that they have capitalized on the aftermath and are now seemingly free to commit atrocities without fear of condemnation.
Look to Palestine for the proof of current actions against a defenceless people and ask yourself the question, "Would the Jews openly exterminate the Palestinian if they had a few gas chambers and furnaces at their disposal ?".
Actually, they do not need them, they have the Yanks to back them up.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Garavnoss » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:41 am

Paphitis wrote:
I also support a 2 State Solution.






Whereas most people who are against the theft of other peoples countries support 1.......Palestine.
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