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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:36 am

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:I am referring to the book of Genesis.

In this book, God created the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

It does not say when the Earth was created.


When did he create it because in the Old Testament it states that Earth was created 6000 years ago?

http://creation.com/6000-years


Can you point to the book / chapter / verse from the Bible, which states that the earth was created 6000 years ago?
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:46 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:I am referring to the book of Genesis.

In this book, God created the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

It does not say when the Earth was created.


When did he create it because in the Old Testament it states that Earth was created 6000 years ago?

http://creation.com/6000-years


Can you point to the book / chapter / verse from the Bible, which states that the earth was created 6000 years ago?


Sorry I can't. I am not familiar with the book.

All i got is the material on the net, which is also generic and not Orthodox.
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:50 am

God created the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

The animals were created on the 6th day.

This could include the dinosaurs.

The Bible does not say when the Earth was created.

Jurassic Park was a film directed by Steven Spielberg in 1996 at Universal studios, Hollywood.
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:14 am

Maximus wrote:God created the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

The animals were created on the 6th day.

This could include the dinosaurs.

The Bible does not say when the Earth was created.

Jurassic Park was a film directed by Steven Spielberg in 1996 at Universal studios, Hollywood.


What about the bit about the date of the alleged creation which is about 3761BC to 4000BC?

It seems to me that the only religion that does not keep changing the goal posts is Judaism. Your Christianity is a mere extension of this religion but the only difference is that the Jews have remained true to their beliefs and have not changed.
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:37 am

Maximus wrote:God created the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

The animals were created on the 6th day.

This could include the dinosaurs.

The Bible does not say when the Earth was created.

Jurassic Park was a film directed by Steven Spielberg in 1996 at Universal studios, Hollywood.


Here, you can look at the complete genealogy of the Bible - the complete family trees of the 3087 people mentioned in the Bible going right back to Adam and Eve which were made on the final day of Genesis.

Going back on these family trees, experts claim that the date of creation is somewhere around 4000BC. The Jews specifically state that it occurred in 3761BC.

http://www.complete-bible-genealogy.com/
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:44 am

I am no expert but what I do know is this.

From that link you provided : http://creation.com/6000-years
The "experts" put Adam at 130 years old and Noah at 600 years old.

There is no bit in the Bible that says that the earth was created about 3761 - 4000 BC.

Not at all, Let God be true and every human being a liar. (Romans 3:4)
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:08 am

Maximus wrote:I am no expert but what I do know is this.

From that link you provided : http://creation.com/6000-years
The "experts" put Adam at 130 years old and Noah at 600 years old.

There is no bit in the Bible that says that the earth was created about 3761 - 4000 BC.

Not at all, Let God be true and every human being a liar. (Romans 3:4)


No but as I said, the Bible's Genealogy is published and they trace Genesis back to a period just under 6000 years ago. The Old Testament also mentions the second coming will occur by the 6000th year since creation. The Jews do not refer to this as the second coming but the arrival of their Messiah. Again, they date genesis as occurring at 3671BC, which means that the Messiah will descend to earth by the year 2229AD.

Now most Christians don't believe this nonsense but many do, including many Greek Orthodox Christians. There lies a major issue for me. Christians seem to thing they can change the goal posts as they like.
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:17 am

Well, I class myself as a Christian and I think its bollox.

The date of creation must have been less than 6000 years ago then because there's no way you can calculate the date of creation from only those people mentioned in the bible. If you then calculate their ages at 130 and 600 years for example to trace it back, you end up with utter rubbish.
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Paphitis » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:30 am

Maximus wrote:Well, I class myself as a Christian and I think its bollox.

The date of creation must have been less than 6000 years ago then because there's no way you can calculate the date of creation from only those people mentioned in the bible. If you then calculate their ages at 130 and 600 years for example to trace it back, you end up with utter rubbish.


Yes you can, because that is what your Good book Claims. It explicitly publishes the complete family trees right back to Adam and Eve.

I agree that many Christians like you do not believe this bollox but then again, how do you reconcile your tendency to nit pick certain things and discard the rest?

And if all this is bollox, then the entire thing is complete bollox! But sadly, those that want to believe just keep changing the goal posts to suit.

Either it's all true or it's all bollox!
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Re: Year 5775 - and so the Choirokitians never existed!

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:41 am

By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Adam and Eve

4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.

5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,

6 but streams[b] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground.

7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.


God rested on the 7th day and gave man the breath of life afterwards.

A blink of gods eye is equal to 1000 years.
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