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Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:39 pm

There's an interesting thesis here:-
http://essay.utwente.nl/62369/1/ENDVERS ... e_daten_(2)s.pdf
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It goes into great detail about Turkey/Cyprus. It's well supported with many references, written in 2012.
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Nikitas » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:37 pm

Link and copy paste not working
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:52 pm

Nikitas wrote:Link and copy paste not working

http://tinyurl.com/po2lhdw
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Link and copy paste not working

http://tinyurl.com/po2lhdw


Thanks GR.
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:29 am

Not easy reading but it does reveal another reason for the 1974 invasion,

In July 1974, the coalition was in a deep crisis, and Ecevit was forced to the very brink of resignation” (Adamson, 2001, p. 288).

Suddenly, after Turkey’s first intervention in Cyprus on July 20, 1974 Ecevit received massive popular support and a celebratory mood prevailed in the country.

“Young men and women sang, clapped and almost pranced in marches [...] brandishing Turkish flags. Crowds gathered wherever the premier went, shouting ‘People’s Ecevit! People’s Ecevit!’” (New York Times, 1974).

However, Ecevit also received tremendous pressure from the Turkish military, which was “dizzy from success and still retained a veto over Premier Bülent Ecevit, forcing him to insist that Turkey’s right to maintain and reinforce its units on Cyprus was irrevocable” (Adamson, 2001, p. 293).

From the revision of Turkish history sources it became clear that the main threat Turkey was facing in those days stemmed from internal problems rather than from external ones.


And, as we know, it had little to do with "saving" Turkish Cypriots,

Ecevit said “Today there is a new Cyprus and Turkey has taken up a new position in the world [...]. No one can question Turkey’s rights in Cyprus. [...] [O]ur main aim is to make Turkey’s presence in Cyprus so strong that it will be impossible to turn things back” (Yennaris, 2003, p. 213).
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Nikitas » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:28 pm

Verbose garbage that offers no new insights. I should fine you for making me waste time reading it.

The fundamental question, and one that has real consequences on peoples lives is what practical steps will Turkey take to establish control over the whole island. We have clear unequivocal statements from the highest ranks of Turkish politics that this is their aim. Davut: "we would have interests on this island even if there was not a single moslem living there" note the term "moslem", not "Turk" it is a new tack that not many have noticed.

And more important: what is the antidote to this disease? We have seen that talks and negotiations fail, and even when they succeed the other side makes sure to project demands that negate any agreement. It will be the same even if we go the whole hog and agree to partition. A short time after partition they will bring up some new fangled "doctrine" that the independence of the south is not full independence but some limited one due to the proximity to the TC state and all manner of such bullshit.

The solution is obvious but we do not even admit it to ourselves.
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:44 pm

Nikitas wrote:Verbose garbage that offers no new insights. I should fine you for making me waste time reading it.

The fundamental question, and one that has real consequences on peoples lives is what practical steps will Turkey take to establish control over the whole island. We have clear unequivocal statements from the highest ranks of Turkish politics that this is their aim. Davut: "we would have interests on this island even if there was not a single moslem living there" note the term "moslem", not "Turk" it is a new tack that not many have noticed.

And more important: what is the antidote to this disease? We have seen that talks and negotiations fail, and even when they succeed the other side makes sure to project demands that negate any agreement. It will be the same even if we go the whole hog and agree to partition. A short time after partition they will bring up some new fangled "doctrine" that the independence of the south is not full independence but some limited one due to the proximity to the TC state and all manner of such bullshit.

The solution is obvious but we do not even admit it to ourselves.


I agree it is not easy to read, you may have been aware of all the facts it mentions but I was not and it's just possible that others (not the self proclaimed experts) may have learned something new. Sorry for wasting your time but you didn't have to read it. :)
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:22 pm

I went straight to the conclusion where the author blames everything on something he calls “realism” so I knew there and then that the report was anything but realistic! :?
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Re: Turkish Foreign Policy towards Cyprus

Postby Nikitas » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:43 pm

That hand that reached outside their borders in 1974 had to be severed, and it must be done so decisively that the scar that is left will stop them from ever thinking about such a move in the future.

This is the solution. We all know it. No one says it aloud because it is not politically correct to say so.
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