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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:45 pm

you are like a gufi with its fangs removed. tfft
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Nikitas » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:46 pm

"if roc is not ready to give the remains in her own territory "

Another LIE! The RoC allowed the recovery of remains from mass graves and other sites, and the reocoveries were broadcast on the news. I watched the recovery of the remains of a Tc family in Lakatamia some months back.

As always it is impossible for a Turk to think outside the bazaar frame. Everything is subject to a give and take, including the issue of people known to be dead for 40 years.

How do you say philotimo in Turkish? Anyone know? In Arabic it is Faida, so I guess its absence is not a moslem thing.
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:50 am

i am not talking about not allowing people to dig you simpleton. they have known where the remains were for 50 years and still do not volunteer the information to find dig them up. what kind of a simpleton are you.

they knew gcs were killed and buried in the south and told the families they were missing just so the missing numbers go up. what ever it is you are on, save some for me.
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:57 pm

I was referring to TC, TC, remains in the south. Found, identified, DNA tested, openly, no games. The subject is not one of those you can play with.

The location of the remains in the trunc cannot have a political effect, Denktash had cleared up the point years ago. He blamed irregular TCs. Moving or hiding the remains is not going to change a thing, not in the minds of normal people, but these are not normal people. So they move bones about.
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:00 pm

Nikitas wrote:I was referring to TC, TC, remains in the south. Found, identified, DNA tested, openly, no games. The subject is not one of those you can play with.

The location of the remains in the trunc cannot have a political effect, Denktash had cleared up the point years ago. He blamed irregular TCs. Moving or hiding the remains is not going to change a thing, not in the minds of normal people, but these are not normal people. So they move bones about.

i know you were and i am not playing any games either. how many of those found in the south are the result of information from the government of greek cypriots. that is the question. they did not even tell gcs that their children were buried in the south and instead misled them telling them that they were missing for decades.
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:19 pm

Unfortunately Lordo may have a point...
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:38 pm

there is no unfortunate about it, let us see if our university educated nikitias sees it. but also recognises the garvity of the situation when internationally recognised government does such things.
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:42 pm

It's unfortunate because families have been waiting for 40 years for the whereabouts of their relatives and no one spoke up from the ROC.
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:03 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:It's unfortunate because families have been waiting for 40 years for the whereabouts of their relatives and no one spoke up from the ROC.

i still maintain there is nothing unfortunate about it, it was quite deliberate. :wink: :wink:
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Re: about the missing, worth mentioning...

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:35 pm

...and even if it is, what better way to expose it with another intention, not the same intention, a better intention; "Greeks" and "Turks" are the same in this regard. If you chose to take one side, or the other, you are like "them". I fight for Cyprus, so that Cypriots are Free. It is precisely because neither "side" has blameless records, and that the logic of their debate is flawed, that the rest of us are their victims.

Lordo, I appreciate the balance you insist on expressing, so equal and opposite to your adversary, but it is not helping because "this" must stop. And the world is not so Black+White. You may be Turkish, but you may choose to be "Turkish". I am Greek, but i am certainly no "Greek". If you are Cypriot you have realised that these mythic realities "Greekness" and "Turkishness" have brought us to this misery, where our Humanity takes second place, for "it".
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