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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Sotos » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:20 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:What made me understand that you are a Turk is your support to the pseudo state in another thread and statements such as " It must pain you to see Greece failing and people debating her demise". It all added up. You are Greek-hating Turk and you couldn't hide it.[/quot


No I am a Cypriot and I do not hate Greece. I just had a fabulous holiday in Santorini and visiting extended family in Athens. I just hate nationalism and I hate the problems Greece and Turkey have created for Cyprus. Look at our history. But you believe what you like it makes no difference to me. You also need to read the press several crossing are open to the psedo state, even the president has crossed the green line. I support reconciliation and respect for each other. So I do not have a problem with someone asking for clarification re a Turkish religious holiday. You obviously do but I hope moderates on both sides will have the final say when it comes to a solution.Thankfully people like you and GIG and Turkish Cypriots of the same ilk are now an insignificant minority


The objection was not about the "Turkish religious holiday" but about referring to the pseudo state as if it is an actual state. Who are a minority are the Turks in Cyprus and for a solution to be achieved they need to accept this fact.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby cypriotnado » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:28 pm

Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:What made me understand that you are a Turk is your support to the pseudo state in another thread and statements such as " It must pain you to see Greece failing and people debating her demise". It all added up. You are Greek-hating Turk and you couldn't hide it.[/quot


No I am a Cypriot and I do not hate Greece. I just had a fabulous holiday in Santorini and visiting extended family in Athens. I just hate nationalism and I hate the problems Greece and Turkey have created for Cyprus. Look at our history. But you believe what you like it makes no difference to me. You also need to read the press several crossing are open to the psedo state, even the president has crossed the green line. I support reconciliation and respect for each other. So I do not have a problem with someone asking for clarification re a Turkish religious holiday. You obviously do but I hope moderates on both sides will have the final say when it comes to a solution.Thankfully people like you and GIG and Turkish Cypriots of the same ilk are now an insignificant minority


The objection was not about the "Turkish religious holiday" but about referring to the pseudo state as if it is an actual state. Who are a minority are the Turks in Cyprus and for a solution to be achieved they need to accept this fact.



That may be the position of Elam and a couple of facist racist minority parties on both sides but not of the majority. Also l never referred to the pseudo state as actual state? Your imagining things :lol: The rest is childish crap and a waste of my time. Chat with GIG you have more in common with her.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Sotos » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:27 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:
cypriotnado wrote:
Sotos wrote:What made me understand that you are a Turk is your support to the pseudo state in another thread and statements such as " It must pain you to see Greece failing and people debating her demise". It all added up. You are Greek-hating Turk and you couldn't hide it.[/quot


No I am a Cypriot and I do not hate Greece. I just had a fabulous holiday in Santorini and visiting extended family in Athens. I just hate nationalism and I hate the problems Greece and Turkey have created for Cyprus. Look at our history. But you believe what you like it makes no difference to me. You also need to read the press several crossing are open to the psedo state, even the president has crossed the green line. I support reconciliation and respect for each other. So I do not have a problem with someone asking for clarification re a Turkish religious holiday. You obviously do but I hope moderates on both sides will have the final say when it comes to a solution.Thankfully people like you and GIG and Turkish Cypriots of the same ilk are now an insignificant minority


The objection was not about the "Turkish religious holiday" but about referring to the pseudo state as if it is an actual state. Who are a minority are the Turks in Cyprus and for a solution to be achieved they need to accept this fact.



That may be the position of Elam and a couple of facist racist minority parties on both sides but not of the majority. Also l never referred to the pseudo state as actual state? Your imagining things :lol: The rest is childish crap and a waste of my time. Chat with GIG you have more in common with her.


I don't know to what you refer to exactly but what I wrote earlier is the fact and what the majority of Cypriots believe. And I am not imagining anything... your support to the pseudo state was clear which is how I understood you are a Turk.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby cypriotnado » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:21 pm

Well your obviously not very informed. The majority of Cypriots including all main political parties support a bi communal bi zonal federation .

Why do you represent yourself as a small penis avatar ?
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Sotos » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:40 pm

cypriotnado wrote:Well your obviously not very informed. The majority of Cypriots including all main political parties support a bi communal bi zonal federation .

Why do you represent yourself as a small penis avatar ?


The correct word regarding BBF is "accept" not "support". There is a huge difference between accepting something because you are blackmailed and you have no other option vs actually supporting something. Even then most Cypriots do not accept a BBF of the kind of Annan plan and the referendum proved this. For a BBF to be accepted by the majority of Cypriots it has to be vastly better than the Annan plan in just about every aspect. Also there is a difference between an "agreement" and a "solution". If the agreement is a result of a blackmail then it will not result in a solution but on the contrary it could potentially make the problem worst.

And if you think that my avatar is a penis then it seems you never seen a penis. Even worst, if your penis looks like that then let me tell you that it is not just small but there is something terribly wrong with it :o
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Nikitas » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:49 pm

Cypriotnado,

Your case just raised some questions about BBF. How would a person of mixed parentage, like yourself, be classified under the BBF arrangements. And I am not being at all humorous.

In the present system our ID cards state the community we belong to. In a BBF deal incorporating EU principles that would arguably be unlawful. Greece had such a problem with the statement of religion on its ID cards a few years ago. How would a bicommunal person be classified on the ID cards?

Interesting.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Lordo » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:58 pm

have you not heard of the case of the younf tc who's father was murdered by the gcs in 1963. when the crossing opened and he could apply for passport he decided to apply and filled his forms as per normal, only to be told by the gc authorities that his mother does not exist and was not born in cyprus and is not registered despite the fact that he had given birth before 1963. he then askes his mother to expalin why it is that there is no record of her in the roc. can you guess why?

she was gclady who married a tc who was murdered by gcs in 1963 and she chose to remain with the tcs. it seems she was registered at trnc but not at roc. why not?
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby erolz66 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:03 am

Nikitas wrote:In the present system our ID cards state the community we belong to. In a BBF deal incorporating EU principles that would arguably be unlawful. Greece had such a problem with the statement of religion on its ID cards a few years ago. How would a bicommunal person be classified on the ID cards?

Interesting.


It is not beyond the wit of man to find solutions to such dilemmas. Just have a look at Belgium ?
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:04 am

erolz66 wrote:
Nikitas wrote:In the present system our ID cards state the community we belong to. In a BBF deal incorporating EU principles that would arguably be unlawful. Greece had such a problem with the statement of religion on its ID cards a few years ago. How would a bicommunal person be classified on the ID cards?

Interesting.


It is not beyond the wit of man to find solutions to such dilemmas. Just have a look at Belgium ?


Apartheid supporter!
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby erolz66 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:16 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote: Apartheid supporter!


Brentford supporter actually, though a pretty fair weather one it has to be admitted.
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